Roxxor wrote:

Enkrates wrote:The BOG BG are largly to blame...before they become so popular (leeching), people were actually taking keeps and open DF. Lately, not much of them.

All they care about are leeching in Bog like zombies. And once they hit 50, they don't even do RvR. They create Animist alts to farm money. It's a cancer and it's ruined the realm.

Just a freaking out lie. It´s ruined the realm to have no respec stones, to cut off Hibernias primary farming class and just join PP-Groups. One day i had send a Champion, if he want to join our "Oldschool" Tank-XP group. He send back, sorry i just want to join PP Groups. That are the real Problems for our realm and in no case the Animists which make money to equip their Chars to make them ready for rvr!

My main is a chanter and i detest focus pulling.....give me more "Oldschool" Tank-Groups
A good Tankgroup can level faster and way safer than a Focus Group....but people have to work for it, oh noes!

Spiqolatius wrote:

Roxxor wrote:

Enkrates wrote:The BOG BG are largly to blame...before they become so popular (leeching), people were actually taking keeps and open DF. Lately, not much of them.

All they care about are leeching in Bog like zombies. And once they hit 50, they don't even do RvR. They create Animist alts to farm money. It's a cancer and it's ruined the realm.

Just a freaking out lie. It´s ruined the realm to have no respec stones, to cut off Hibernias primary farming class and just join PP-Groups. One day i had send a Champion, if he want to join our "Oldschool" Tank-XP group. He send back, sorry i just want to join PP Groups. That are the real Problems for our realm and in no case the Animists which make money to equip their Chars to make them ready for rvr!

My main is a chanter and i detest focus pulling.....give me more "Oldschool" Tank-Groups
A good Tankgroup can level faster and way safer than a Focus Group....but people have to work for it, oh noes!

No good if your tanks have no armour though. Hence why people will level a pet class or farm class first.


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barto22 wrote:
No good if your tanks have no armour though. Hence why people will level a pet class or farm class first.

I understand this but leveling armorcrafting along with your first (tank) character so you can trinket/craft your own gear would be much faster than bringing two characters to 50, powerlevel or not.

I have the feeling that some are just obsessed by making plats, and then moar plats, way beyond what one really needs, and i dont get it. You can't buy realm ranks.

I've never heard about a zerk leveling up a bonedancer first to farm stuff to gear the zerk.
They get to 50, do RVR, open DF and then farm diamonds with tank groups.
Maybe we could learn a couple of things from those fools.

Well or we are rerolling cus no dragons so no rvr...

Menta spe moon dealing 70 under red debuff is full bullshit

Tenebralz wrote:Well or we are rerolling cus no dragons so no rvr...

Menta spe moon dealing 70 under red debuff is full bullshit

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Roll a BM, Hero..

No you rolled a menta to HoT an ench pet in a focus pull group to get easy exp.

Even a mana eld is viable in rvr, you could have rolled that but noooo. Mentalist lol. Not even viable as light spec what do you want a respec for anyway huh.


You need to look at yourself.

You roll animists, mana mentas you neglect heros, bms and light elds. This is your problem.

Hibs could esily have exped like mad with a setup of:

D,D, B
Hero
BM
BM
Mana eld ( 48 mana 24 light = blue NS = same as 47 dark RM ).
ench

Man you have ruined yourself in your poor choice of leveling groups and compositions.


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2xBMs = studded
Bard = studded
2x casters = cloth

5 classes that cost in total 3 plats to get 6x 99 quality armor pieces for. You don't even need to farm anything cheapest realm to template.

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You can only get away with rolling tanks firsthand if you are organized. If not, you will need some sort of farmchar that you can use to SOLO with to get cash for leveling crafters. Nobody is going to invite your ungeared BM because most people were smart enough to think longterm.

LGM crafters take AGES to level and LOADS of plat to fund. If you only really have 4-5 guildies on in primetime logging on and off on various hours, there's no way you are going to get decent consistent XP regardless of your setup.

Let's be real here, being templated at this point takes/took some serious powerplay, be it organized or not. Most people just don't have the time to do so.

Mids simply have a way better PvE - PvP transition than other realms and most likely more (organised) powerplayers as well. That's why they are ahead right now simple as that. No need to whine about it tho.

oLd-Sneakers wrote:BLAH BLAH BLAH

You're not the center of the world and all your words are not the only thrue.

Some people are here to play and have fun (with friends), not only to get full optimised farm / stuf / gold / rvr since lvl 1 to 50

The lack of respect is whatever you think an real block for many people.

Stop crying 24/7 about your failed characters then, go have fun.


Also utter nonsense u cannot "solo" (make 8 man balanced pve grps without drug addict, unemployed and wellfare set grp) a melee class 100% without being fed "plats" from a 20 man team working to EXP and GEAR your "hard to play tank".

800 tailor
800 metal ~1 plat invested

Salvage all drops you get and hinge.

Buy WC random quality weapons at make cost when u need it.

Have bad armor? Get your druid or bard to hand u a base AF buff.

People have become worse players since 2001, just blows my mind reading this needy crybaby whinging about absolutely everything.

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several OTDs and quests you can make to get 100 qual weapons as well as you level.

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As a solo without a group you can easily befriend people and make "set exp groups" that meet up and exp every day or w/e you decide.

AHahaha u r such a joke, we have 2 hero and 1bm full stuff and templated, i see how good u are since u speak to a setup without mentalist, without second demezz..

How good u are, u such a troll plz gtfo and go back on midgard forum, your troll isn't welcome here.

Gonna ask the same question again. How come no Mids did the same thing and rolled farm classes first? We actually rolled classes we want to play and somehow people have enough plat to craft Templates. There arent 200 BDs running around. We do have proly 200 combined Warriors and Berserkers online though. This whole notion that you need to roll a farm class first is ****** retarded. Who ever thought it up should be drug out into the street and shot.

Wishbone have you ever heard about a skill called celerity?

I want to add something in regard to the topic.

What I would like you to know is that when another realm like Midgard holds all relics, their relic keeps will have only weak defenses for balancing reasons. When you normally see delegate guards from other keeps protecting the relics they will not be there in such a situation. When you have a relic in your relic keep you can increase defenses by claiming keeps. Each of the keeps in your home zone that you claim sends a delegation to help protecting the relic with a level corresponding to the keep level.

doesn't matter when you are 2x more people .... like Mid

Blue wrote:I want to add something in regard to the topic.

What I would like you to know is that when another realm like Midgard holds all relics, their relic keeps will have only weak defenses for balancing reasons. When you normally see delegate guards from other keeps protecting the relics they will not be there in such a situation. When you have a relic in your relic keep you can increase defenses by claiming keeps. Each of the keeps in your home zone that you claim sends a delegation to help protecting the relic with a level corresponding to the keep level.

Will mid relic keep side doors also bug out so other realms can farm defenders while they can't get in?

And rather interesting how all the mids dispersed once celerity got brought up.

Frigzy wrote:You can only get away with rolling tanks firsthand if you are organized. If not, you will need some sort of farmchar that you can use to SOLO with to get cash for leveling crafters. Nobody is going to invite your ungeared BM because most people were smart enough to think longterm.

LGM crafters take AGES to level and LOADS of plat to fund. If you only really have 4-5 guildies on in primetime logging on and off on various hours, there's no way you are going to get decent consistent XP regardless of your setup.

Let's be real here, being templated at this point takes/took some serious powerplay, be it organized or not. Most people just don't have the time to do so.

I dont know what makes you think leveling a tank does require an LGM crafter. It doesnt.
All you need to do is to keep your crafting skill AT YOUR LEVEL up to level 40(800).
You hit lvl 10 on your hero? Good level up armorcrafting to 200 (it takes 15 minutes at most and a few silver coins).
You hit 15? Time to level armorcrafting up to 300.... and so on.

As long as you keep it leveled you will be able to salvage/trinket/craft the gear you're looting and thats enough to fund yourself. Kill yellow/blue/green whatever suits you while LFG and you'll make tons of money.
And when you're at 800 you can stop, because 800 is what you need to MAKE CASH, no need to go further if you dont like crafting.

And all this does require a lot less time than leveling TWO characters, one of which you probably dont even like playing.

I dont have a guild, and i just dinged lvl 35, hit 800 tailoring and bought myself a house, my gear is in perfect conditions. By the time ill hit 50 ill be rich.
Granted im a caster, leveling up is easier for me and tailoring is easier and cheaper than armorcrafting, but trust me everyone can do it, even on a first character, even as a tank.

And let me repeat: all this takes LESS TIME than leveling two characters.

On top of that leveling with oj/yellow crafted gear will make you a great tank, one of those tanks who get friended and invited FAST because they can peel for real.