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Pop
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by Pop » Jan 26, 2017 02:15
Rendiviel wrote:Tyvm! Another question = Is Shadowzerker the highest possible dps for pvp as a SB?/is it the ultimate rogue?
Shadowzerker is the most reliable for sustained damage. You're playing a solo zerker with stronger combat styles. Crit strike has really high scaling, and the shadowzerker spec gives you 50 LA so you have access to all of those combat styles. To say that it's the best spec would be a lie. Shadowzerker struggles against shield tanks. You just don't have the poisons at your disposal, and a smart tank knows how to draw out the fight. More importantly, you don't have the points at early realm ranks. Only RR4 are you capable of doing 5 spec, because that's the earliest you can get composite 50 envenom without seriously gimping your damage output. Once you get to rr4+, you have the necessary skillpoints that 5 spec is viable. It's also another reason why you need to AT stealth. Your end game is very much effected by how many points you have at your disposal. If I remember correctly, you should have 0 points to spend if you're 5-spec at rr8 if you fully AT stealth. But I digress. The answer to your question is that it's the highest DPS for a shadowblade that isn't RR4, possibly RR5 yet. You CAN still get lifebane applied to your weapons, someone will just need to do it for you after every fight. The best thing you can do for yourself is to get a D/Q charge item, and a str/con if you can afford it. The nice thing about mid is how many Str/con charges there are. Buff potions are pretty cheap if you're not getting regen pots. You should always try to be buffed if you can help it.
Thank you, again, Great Info. Seriously tyvm
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Bcopeland
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by Bcopeland » Jan 26, 2017 13:53
A shadowzerk is 50 LA with comp 50 weapon, stealth, envenom. The rest goes into CS and at high enough rr you can go into something called a Perfzerk. This means you're a SZ with 21 CS for PA. SZ does not negate poisons. It's a hard spec to full play until RR 4 typically.
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Ilerget
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by Ilerget » Jan 26, 2017 14:14
I think the spec negating poison is called soulblade
It's the thrill of the chase and I'm coming after you.
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th0msdk
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by th0msdk » Jan 27, 2017 03:13
Critblade is best for this patch... Due to CS styles don't need LA in order to do more offhand damage etc. Shadowzerker is basically ****** compared to any Critblade.
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Pop
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by Pop » Jan 27, 2017 06:11
th0msdk wrote:Critblade is best for this patch... Due to CS styles don't need LA in order to do more offhand damage etc. Shadowzerker is basically ****** compared to any Critblade.
What's the cookie cutter for Critblade?
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Fabulabelle
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by Fabulabelle » Jan 27, 2017 18:38
Rendiviel wrote:Pop wrote:Fabulabelle wrote:Nop, Shadowzerk is (at 4L): 50 LA 36 weapon 36 stealth 36 venom rest CS
So you play like a zerk, with stealth and venom.
Just curious, but Why Venom over CS?
Because he doesn't understand how to spec. Shadowzerk is meant to utilize everything except envenom  Ok thank you :p Sorry but Shadowzerk doesnt avoid poison. With the spec I suggested, you are spec like a zerk, with 50LA, 50 composite weapon, 50 composite stealth, 50 composite venom (to get 50 dot). No Viper, and what? Dot is still a nice asset to bet in. Anyway, you can spec as you want, but as a shadowblade has many "names", here for you : - Critblade : CS, Weapon, Stealth, Poison - Shadowzerk : LA, Weapon, Stealth, Poison (what you were asking for, and what I answered you to) - Soulblade : LA, CS, Weapon, Stealth (what Rendiviel suggested you, but with condescension... but unfortunately he was just wrong  ) - 5 spec : CS, LA, Weapon, Stealth, Poison No, don't thank me 
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th0msdk
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by th0msdk » Jan 27, 2017 23:34
Pop wrote:th0msdk wrote:Critblade is best for this patch... Due to CS styles don't need LA in order to do more offhand damage etc. Shadowzerker is basically ****** compared to any Critblade.
What's the cookie cutter for Critblade?
Basically you just keep Env/Stealth capped to 50 with realm rank, 35/35 at rr5, then 39cs rest sword usually. Some like abit higher CS and lower sword/axe. Whatever you prefer.
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Fabulabelle
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by Fabulabelle » Jan 28, 2017 01:24
I would say higher CS as you use CS style, and 50 composite weapon  For critblade 
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Pop
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by Pop » Jan 28, 2017 10:49
There's so many variations and differentiating opinions here it's impossible to know who's right and who's wrong and what the ultimate DPS Shadowblade is...
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smallgreenguy
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by smallgreenguy » Jan 28, 2017 12:20
Pop wrote:There's so many variations and differentiating opinions here it's impossible to know who's right and who's wrong and what the ultimate DPS Shadowblade is...
Because there is no right and wrong with this stuff. Everyone has a different opinion based on their preferred playstyle. Choose what sounds the most fun to you, stop worrying about min/maxing everything. I can tell you from playing both critblade and shadowzerker they are both good. Shadowzerker was way more fun to me. Neither are difficult to spec. Critblade is for someone who likes those huge openers. If you don't hit your opener, lol GL with winning that fight. Shadowzerker is for someone who just likes beating on stuff. Don't need the opener to win. Fabulabella's post about specs is 100% right btw.
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Rendiviel
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by Rendiviel » Jan 28, 2017 17:53
Sorry but Shadowzerk doesnt avoid poison. With the spec I suggested, you are spec like a zerk, with 50LA, 50 composite weapon, 50 composite stealth, 50 composite venom (to get 50 dot). No Viper, and what? Dot is still a nice asset to bet in. Anyway, you can spec as you want, but as a shadowblade has many "names", here for you : - Critblade : CS, Weapon, Stealth, Poison - Shadowzerk : LA, Weapon, Stealth, Poison (what you were asking for, and what I answered you to) - Soulblade : LA, CS, Weapon, Stealth (what Rendiviel suggested you, but with condescension... but unfortunately he was just wrong  ) - 5 spec : CS, LA, Weapon, Stealth, Poison No, don't thank me 
Yeah he's right, I mixed my specs up. Shadowzerker is NOT the one I posted, Soulblade is the proper name.
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Wasterius
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by Wasterius » Jan 29, 2017 15:47
Is it worth to play Critblade (was the 2H thing?)
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Valfar
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by Valfar » Jan 30, 2017 14:23
Pop wrote:There's so many variations and differentiating opinions here it's impossible to know who's right and who's wrong and what the ultimate DPS Shadowblade is...
Just read what Fabulabelle wrote and you'll be fine. You need 50 composite envenom for lifebane, period. Also, going 50 in LA is the new level of insanity and mental retardation. It was ok on uthgard 1 cause Shadowblades had Aurora borealis as the lvl 50 style(it was even ok after they removed the cold proc from it), but here 44 is quite enough.
It is what it is.
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Voo
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by Voo » Jan 31, 2017 13:04
I really don't get how having Realm ranks changes what skills you need? All these threads keep saying drop stealth as you gain RRank, but why? :S
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Voo
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by Voo » Jan 31, 2017 13:07
Voo wrote:I really don't get how having Realm ranks changes what skills you need? All these threads keep saying drop stealth as you gain RRank, but why? :S
Back to your cave with your dumb questions Source for anyone else wondering, i think it's this Besides training, increases to your skills can come from two sources that stack: items and realm bonuses from earning realm ranks.
These increases to skills are capped as follows.
Items can increase a skill by a maximum of 1 + (your level/5) skill points.
Each realm rank (not realm level) beyond rank 1 increases all of your skills by +1.
Therefore you can earn up to 10 skill points by being rank 11. The total skill increase cap at level 50 is therefore 11 + 10 = +21 to a given skill.
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