ftw is a Shadowzerker, what's the specs and how does it work?

Pop wrote:ftw is a Shadowzerker, what's the specs and how does it work?

Shadowzerker means you're focusing on every stat except envenom usually, so you're looking at something like 34 CS 44 LA 39 stealth (at rr1 and templated) and 39 mainhand and the rest in envenom. Each time you gain a realm rank, you drop stealth down 1 point with a respec and put that point elsewhere. At rr4+ you can look towards doing a 5-spec build, which would be 34 CS 39 LA 36 Stealth 36 Envenom 34 mainhand. Shadowzerker is better at early realm ranks and leveling. Hope this helps!

Rendiviel wrote:

Pop wrote:ftw is a Shadowzerker, what's the specs and how does it work?

Shadowzerker means you're focusing on every stat except envenom usually, so you're looking at something like 34 CS 44 LA 39 stealth (at rr1 and templated) and 39 mainhand and the rest in envenom. Each time you gain a realm rank, you drop stealth down 1 point with a respec and put that point elsewhere. At rr4+ you can look towards doing a 5-spec build, which would be 34 CS 39 LA 36 Stealth 36 Envenom 34 mainhand. Shadowzerker is better at early realm ranks and leveling. Hope this helps!

36stealth, 36weap, 35envenom, 39la, 34CS is probably the spec I am going for, once I start my SB alt. Run around with 2hand, wack em with the opener and switch to LA. I can't really see any world where you'd not want to cap your weapon over envenom.

A SZ is someone who specs like a berserker with stealth; no need for envenom or CS styles. However, the CS openers are too good to pass up.

IMO of course

borog wrote:A SZ is someone who specs like a berserker with stealth; no need for envenom or CS styles. However, the CS openers are too good to pass up.

IMO of course

So 50 LA, 50 Sword, Rest CS & Auto Train Stealth?

Nop, Shadowzerk is (at 4L):
50 LA
36 weapon
36 stealth
36 venom
rest CS

So you play like a zerk, with stealth and venom.

Fabulabelle wrote:Nop, Shadowzerk is (at 4L):
50 LA
36 weapon
36 stealth
36 venom
rest CS

So you play like a zerk, with stealth and venom.

So do i physically add points into stealth or do I let it auto-train? because i'm not really sure what autotrain is..

Autotrain Stealth =

You don't put any point on Stealth until level 48 !
If you do so, every 4 level you'll get a free point in stealth.
If you do so, at level 48 you'll be at 12 stealth without spending any point in the spec yet.

If you put a point (even a single point) in stealth before 48; the auto-train & free points will stop instantly (no going back even if you respec).


PS : What the hell am i doing here helping a SB ?? Am an alb damn !

I only did this pre LA nerf. Not sure how worth while it is after as I had respeced my Shadowblade to something else.

Pre LA nerf though I was like 3 shotting other stealthers lol.

EDIT: Btw didnt you reroll Hib?

Zintair wrote:I only did this pre LA nerf. Not sure how worth while it is after as I had respeced my Shadowblade to something else.

Pre LA nerf though I was like 3 shotting other stealthers lol.

EDIT: Btw didnt you reroll Hib?

I did. Rerolled Hib, got to level 9 and spent 2 days (4 hours each day) LFG. Couldn't find a group at all. I work nightshift so when I play, it's not during peak hours and after coming from mid where groups were widely available I just decided that I was robbing myself of a good experience so I deleted again and went back Mid.

I really enjoyed the BM and decided to do a SB because of that. I didn't wanna assume the role of tank at all and I figure that stealth ganking groups will be hilarious and really fun later on. And in lieu of this post, I just want the most bang for my buck as a SB and I want to have the highest possible DPS as a SB.

Also is 1.65 pre LA nerf or post?

Kha wrote:Autotrain Stealth =

You don't put any point on Stealth until level 48 !
If you do so, every 4 level you'll get a free point in stealth.
If you do so, at level 48 you'll be at 12 stealth without spending any point in the spec yet.

If you put a point (even a single point) in stealth before 48; the auto-train & free points will stop instantly (no going back even if you respec).


PS : What the hell am i doing here helping a SB ?? Am an alb damn !

^This is most appreciated, tyvm.

And uhh yeah, I'll see you on the battlefield but uhh...

You wont see me

Fabulabelle wrote:Nop, Shadowzerk is (at 4L):
50 LA
36 weapon
36 stealth
36 venom
rest CS

So you play like a zerk, with stealth and venom.

Just curious, but Why Venom over CS?

Pop wrote:

Fabulabelle wrote:Nop, Shadowzerk is (at 4L):
50 LA
36 weapon
36 stealth
36 venom
rest CS

So you play like a zerk, with stealth and venom.

Just curious, but Why Venom over CS?

Because he doesn't understand how to spec. Shadowzerk is meant to utilize everything except envenom, because you do more melee damage and there's no Viper in patch 1.65. The spec at RR1 should be 39 CS, 39 stealth, 50 LA, 39 main, rest envenom. Or you ignore envenom and increase main slightly higher. You get PA+CD, all LA styles, enough stealth to be viable, and you basically disregard envenom. As you get to higher RR you drop stealth points and increase CS or mainhand until about RR4/5, where you can respec and go for 5-spec (finally!). If you have someone else who can apply weapon swaps for you, it works out even better. The point of shadowzerk is to have NO envenom and HIGH melee damage.

Rendiviel wrote:

Pop wrote:

Fabulabelle wrote:Nop, Shadowzerk is (at 4L):

Just curious, but Why Venom over CS?

Because he doesn't understand how to spec. Shadowzerk is meant to utilize everything except envenom, because you do more melee damage and there's no Viper in patch 1.65. The spec at RR1 should be 39 CS, 39 stealth, 50 LA, 39 main, rest envenom. Or you ignore envenom and increase main slightly higher. You get PA+CD, all LA styles, enough stealth to be viable, and you basically disregard envenom. As you get to higher RR you drop stealth points and increase CS or mainhand until about RR4/5, where you can respec and go for 5-spec (finally!). If you have someone else who can apply weapon swaps for you, it works out even better. The point of shadowzerk is to have NO envenom and HIGH melee damage.

Tyvm! Another question = Is Shadowzerker the highest possible dps for pvp as a SB?/is it the ultimate rogue?

Tyvm! Another question = Is Shadowzerker the highest possible dps for pvp as a SB?/is it the ultimate rogue?

Shadowzerker is the most reliable for sustained damage. You're playing a solo zerker with stronger combat styles. Crit strike has really high scaling, and the shadowzerker spec gives you 50 LA so you have access to all of those combat styles. To say that it's the best spec would be a lie. Shadowzerker struggles against shield tanks. You just don't have the poisons at your disposal, and a smart tank knows how to draw out the fight. More importantly, you don't have the points at early realm ranks. Only RR4 are you capable of doing 5 spec, because that's the earliest you can get composite 50 envenom without seriously gimping your damage output. Once you get to rr4+, you have the necessary skillpoints that 5 spec is viable. It's also another reason why you need to AT stealth. Your end game is very much effected by how many points you have at your disposal. If I remember correctly, you should have 0 points to spend if you're 5-spec at rr8 if you fully AT stealth. But I digress. The answer to your question is that it's the highest DPS for a shadowblade that isn't RR4, possibly RR5 yet. You CAN still get lifebane applied to your weapons, someone will just need to do it for you after every fight. The best thing you can do for yourself is to get a D/Q charge item, and a str/con if you can afford it. The nice thing about mid is how many Str/con charges there are. Buff potions are pretty cheap if you're not getting regen pots. You should always try to be buffed if you can help it.