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Hero question - RvR Spec for PVE

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skorpe Warder Posts: 25 Joined: Jan 09, 2017 11:41	Reply with quote by skorpe » Jan 09, 2017 23:06 Hello all, one question to my fellow hero colleagues: will you be able to hold aggro in pve with in 10 blades on Level 50 in pve (considering the rvr spec 50LW 50Shield 6CS 10Blades rest parry) or do you just taunt with lw? Thanks and regards

Mass Warder Posts: 45 Joined: Sep 30, 2007 00:00	Reply with quote by Mass » Jan 10, 2017 02:48 Go full 1handed till 40 and then ask again.

skorpe Warder Posts: 25 Joined: Jan 09, 2017 11:41	Reply with quote by skorpe » Jan 10, 2017 10:09 That was the plan all along to level up with blade and shield. But with 40 you have to use your single respec which means to make an informed decision. Why do you suggest to wait with that question until level 40?

Ploangel Myrmidon Posts: 122 Joined: Dec 05, 2007 01:00	Reply with quote by Ploangel » Jan 10, 2017 11:06 On uth 1.0 10 blades + protect "on a big aggro generator" was enough to keep aggro from DF prince. http://www.uthexa.fr - http://builder.uthexa.fr/

skorpe Warder Posts: 25 Joined: Jan 09, 2017 11:41	Reply with quote by skorpe » Jan 10, 2017 11:15 Thanks, happy to hear that.

Salidor Eagle Knight Posts: 526 Joined: May 02, 2007 00:00 Location: USA	Reply with quote by Salidor » Jan 11, 2017 08:02 on Single target Mobs, is very easy to learn to change up. switching to sword to LW, once you got the timing right holding argo is very easy ^^ sword and Board is great if there is ton of mobs on you ^^

Salidor Eagle Knight Posts: 526 Joined: May 02, 2007 00:00 Location: USA	Reply with quote by Salidor » Jan 11, 2017 08:02 Salidor wrote:on Single target Mobs, is very easy to learn to change up. switching to shield to LW, once you got the timing right holding argo is very easy ^^ sword and Board is great if there is ton of mobs on you ^^

skorpe Warder Posts: 25 Joined: Jan 09, 2017 11:41	Reply with quote by skorpe » Jan 11, 2017 14:12 Salidor wrote:on Single target Mobs, is very easy to learn to change up. switching to sword to LW, once you got the timing right holding argo is very easy ^^ sword and Board is great if there is ton of mobs on you ^^ Thanks Salidor. The thing is: i am lazy. Switching weapons in pve on every pull is no fun to me So I am really interested, if a hero with only 10 in blades can keep aggro consistently on high level mobs (starting from level 40) ? Or would the miss rate be too high / dmg too low to keep aggro in groups? Switching weapons while soloing or RvRing is of course necessary, I mainly talk about pve xp groups, for example doing fins in cf or runs through df.

Salidor Eagle Knight Posts: 526 Joined: May 02, 2007 00:00 Location: USA	Reply with quote by Salidor » Jan 11, 2017 15:37 skorpe wrote: Salidor wrote:on Single target Mobs, is very easy to learn to change up. switching to sword to LW, once you got the timing right holding argo is very easy ^^ sword and Board is great if there is ton of mobs on you ^^ Thanks Salidor. The thing is: i am lazy. Switching weapons in pve on every pull is no fun to me So I am really interested, if a hero with only 10 in blades can keep aggro consistently on high level mobs (starting from level 40) ? Or would the miss rate be too high / dmg too low to keep aggro in groups? Switching weapons while soloing or RvRing is of course necessary, I mainly talk about pve xp groups, for example doing fins in cf or runs through df. You could use the old hib spec from live. ^^ back then we though shield slam was based off your one hand spec, would still work for RvR and PvE ^^ 50 LW 42 shield 39 Blades 6 spear :+) wouldnt be the best for RvR nor the best in PvE but easly the middle ground for both. and this spec wont gimp your char. after a few month if you hate it , its easly fixed with just a single line respec :+)

skorpe Warder Posts: 25 Joined: Jan 09, 2017 11:41	Reply with quote by skorpe » Jan 12, 2017 13:57 Salidor wrote: skorpe wrote: Salidor wrote:on Single target Mobs, is very easy to learn to change up. switching to sword to LW, once you got the timing right holding argo is very easy ^^ sword and Board is great if there is ton of mobs on you ^^ Thanks Salidor. The thing is: i am lazy. Switching weapons in pve on every pull is no fun to me So I am really interested, if a hero with only 10 in blades can keep aggro consistently on high level mobs (starting from level 40) ? Or would the miss rate be too high / dmg too low to keep aggro in groups? Switching weapons while soloing or RvRing is of course necessary, I mainly talk about pve xp groups, for example doing fins in cf or runs through df. You could use the old hib spec from live. ^^ back then we though shield slam was based off your one hand spec, would still work for RvR and PvE ^^ 50 LW 42 shield 39 Blades 6 spear :+) wouldnt be the best for RvR nor the best in PvE but easly the middle ground for both. and this spec wont gimp your char. after a few month if you hate it , its easly fixed with just a single line respec :+) Sure sure sure ... but i would prefer to have the best skill for pvp and only the necessary points for group pve. So if its possible with 10 points in blade to hit a purple mob without too many misses thats all I Need. Just looking for an experienced hero to tell me if thats feasible. On a side note: why not 50 spear instead of 50 lw? I heard the side-chain of spear does good damage and the stun comes from slam anyway. And with 50 spear you can snare and do damage at the same time...what am I missing?

Doggie Warder Posts: 17 Joined: Dec 29, 2016 16:58	Reply with quote by Doggie » Jan 14, 2017 11:23 With LW you can switch your output dmg type between slash and crush, spear just offers thrust dmg.

Salidor Eagle Knight Posts: 526 Joined: May 02, 2007 00:00 Location: USA	Reply with quote by Salidor » Jan 15, 2017 03:57 I love spear ^^ BUT LW best dps for Heros. Mid tanks can spec into snare. so snaring a tank target While there snaring your supports in a way its better to spec large weapon and por on the DPS on the nastier DPS ( zerker/savage ) While Spear is great VS all chain users and has Snare ^^ it will lose alot of DPS on other parts of the world. 50+ per swing. If you think you can handle out all the different types of weapon switching in a fight then spec this way. 50 shield 50 LW 6 spear 10 blades, rest parry. If you think you will mess up the timing of switching then go 50 spear 50 shield 10 blades rest parry. Oh btw this is my 500 post ^^

skorpe Warder Posts: 25 Joined: Jan 09, 2017 11:41	Reply with quote by skorpe » Jan 18, 2017 11:49 Salidor wrote:I love spear ^^ BUT LW best dps for Heros. Mid tanks can spec into snare. so snaring a tank target While there snaring your supports in a way its better to spec large weapon and por on the DPS on the nastier DPS ( zerker/savage ) While Spear is great VS all chain users and has Snare ^^ it will lose alot of DPS on other parts of the world. 50+ per swing. If you think you can handle out all the different types of weapon switching in a fight then spec this way. 50 shield 50 LW 6 spear 10 blades, rest parry. If you think you will mess up the timing of switching then go 50 spear 50 shield 10 blades rest parry. Oh btw this is my 500 post ^^ Salidor: thanks for your input. I think i will go spear then at first. Too much chaos in RvR for me to do a proper 2h weapon switching during a fight. "50 spear 50 shield 10 blades rest parry" it is.

billbaggins Guardian Posts: 6 Joined: May 10, 2016 02:03	Reply with quote by billbaggins » Jan 19, 2017 16:44 If you wanna step it up to the next level, 50 LW/ 38 CS / 42 shield / 10 blades Covers all 3 damage types. The 10% extra damage from using thrust at the proper times will make up for the 12 spec points missing (38 from 50) But again, this involves a lot of weapon swapping (which I have no problem doing because, well, you're a tank who barely has to press many buttons as is

skorpe Warder Posts: 25 Joined: Jan 09, 2017 11:41	Reply with quote by skorpe » Feb 13, 2017 12:17 skorpe wrote:Hello all, one question to my fellow hero colleagues: will you be able to hold aggro in pve with in 10 blades on Level 50 in pve (considering the rvr spec 50LW 50Shield 6CS 10Blades rest parry) or do you just taunt with lw? Thanks and regards Status update: now that I reached lvl 41 I am going for the above mentioned spec so I have only 10 in blades at the moment. I hit purple mobs well enough to keep aggro. Sometimes a blademaster steals my aggro with sidestyles or a trigger-happy-bomb starts a little bit too early: in these cases i can switch to my LW and get aggro back quite effectively. I have the feeling I am even more versatile as a tank with this spec as I can also deal some dps if necessary. So until now I am happy that I did the respec. Will add further updates when I levelup. Thanks for all your inputs again btw.