The Theurgist leveling compared to Necro and Cabalist

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Postby Roamer05 » Jan 06, 2017 20:33

I plan on doing a lot of solo leveling. I have played Necro and Cabalist before. I want to do something different now. Is a earth spec Theurgist a pretty solid soloer for leveling? Like if Necro and Cabalist were 10/10. Theurgist be 8? This is my first time playing the Theurgist and I'm torn on how I should spec for what I want to do while leveling and how to plan for a RvR group spec.

For leveling I have heard 1-20 you want to spec Ice since it's Best in those early levels? At 20 respec for full earth. Is this correct?

At RvR I planned on doing 41 ice 35 earth. Perhaps respecing at 40 from my leveling spec to the RvR spec.

But now I've heard around 40 earth is loved by RvR groups for the blade turn? Better to do this?

Appreciate any help.

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Postby Eddie » Jan 06, 2017 20:45

if necro is 10 i d say Theu is 4, you can shoot out 5 pets and kill a red, but then you ll need to rest mana :D

the best solo spec shoudl be air, as you get a spec DD which gives you the best damage/power ratio, but solo theu is gona be hell, you ll never be 50, its not a necro.

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Postby Firanum » Jan 06, 2017 20:53

Great picture, Eddie :)

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Postby Colwyn » Jan 06, 2017 22:06

Eddie wrote:if necro is 10 i d say Theu is 4, you can shoot out 5 pets and kill a red, but then you ll need to rest mana :D

the best solo spec shoudl be air, as you get a spec DD which gives you the best damage/power ratio, but solo theu is gona be hell, you ll never be 50, its not a necro.


that bad huh? that's disapointing.

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Postby Pezzor » Jan 06, 2017 22:33

Eddie wrote:if necro is 10 i d say Theu is 4, you can shoot out 5 pets and kill a red, but then you ll need to rest mana :D

the best solo spec shoudl be air, as you get a spec DD which gives you the best damage/power ratio, but solo theu is gona be hell, you ll never be 50, its not a necro.



LOL that is a load of crap. Theurs rape solo. You have to be smart about your power, but you never kill reds it's not worth it. I can spam yellows all day and only have to rest for like 30 sec increments. You'll never it 50, ya ok.

And I disagree with the air thing. I play ice/earth and dominate every aspect of the game. Never turned down for a group bc I have all the right things in earth, and my Ice allows me to be a hell of a lot more than pet spam in RvR. However, for leveling specifically, you can kind of go any route you want. They all have their pros and cons. I just prefer ice.

Frankly I think Theurg is easy to level.

Edit: I played theur in beta and had zero trouble whatsoever leveling solo. I am also a theurg on live.

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Postby emanius » Jan 06, 2017 22:58

Pezzor wrote:
Eddie wrote:if necro is 10 i d say Theu is 4, you can shoot out 5 pets and kill a red, but then you ll need to rest mana :D

the best solo spec shoudl be air, as you get a spec DD which gives you the best damage/power ratio, but solo theu is gona be hell, you ll never be 50, its not a necro.



LOL that is a load of crap. Theurs rape solo. You have to be smart about your power, but you never kill reds it's not worth it. I can spam yellows all day and only have to rest for like 30 sec increments. You'll never it 50, ya ok.

And I disagree with the air thing. I play ice/earth and dominate every aspect of the game. Never turned down for a group bc I have all the right things in earth, and my Ice allows me to be a hell of a lot more than pet spam in RvR. However, for leveling specifically, you can kind of go any route you want. They all have their pros and cons. I just prefer ice.

Frankly I think Theurg is easy to level.

Edit: I played theur in beta and had zero trouble whatsoever leveling solo. I am also a theurg on live.


Nice info man, could you post your suggested spec for lvling? I like the idea to be ok in party but also in solo. And would be nice to see also a little guide on how to pull mobs? (i mean how use pets, for example 1earth + 1 ice on yello and then rest?)

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Postby Roamer05 » Jan 07, 2017 02:39

Pezzor wrote:
Eddie wrote:if necro is 10 i d say Theu is 4, you can shoot out 5 pets and kill a red, but then you ll need to rest mana :D

the best solo spec shoudl be air, as you get a spec DD which gives you the best damage/power ratio, but solo theu is gona be hell, you ll never be 50, its not a necro.



LOL that is a load of crap. Theurs rape solo. You have to be smart about your power, but you never kill reds it's not worth it. I can spam yellows all day and only have to rest for like 30 sec increments. You'll never it 50, ya ok.

And I disagree with the air thing. I play ice/earth and dominate every aspect of the game. Never turned down for a group bc I have all the right things in earth, and my Ice allows me to be a hell of a lot more than pet spam in RvR. However, for leveling specifically, you can kind of go any route you want. They all have their pros and cons. I just prefer ice.

Well this is reassuring. Thank you. Did you spec 41 ice 35 earth?

Frankly I think Theurg is easy to level.

Edit: I played theur in beta and had zero trouble whatsoever leveling solo. I am also a theurg on live.

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Postby Pezzor » Jan 07, 2017 02:46

Well when I did it the first time, I put 1 point into earth for self BT. However, that does put you 1 level behind for new pets in ice. I found it useful enough to not have an issue with that.

However, with launch, I think I am skipping getting the BT and going full ice to stay on level with pets. For solo I did straight ice until like 30 or 35?

This time around I will probably do earth a little quicker b/c I will likely be grouping more.

For skills, I usually could take 3 yellows at once with 2-3 pets on each and then sit and cast a DD if needed.
Could usually go 2 rounds of this before I sat for a minute and then rinse/repeat. (this is really after 20 though b/c KT's are the jam)

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Postby Condottier » Jan 07, 2017 06:05

I'm with Pezzor.

Ice from the beginning. DD/Snare is really good for solo level and lower lvl group leveling.
Find spirit weak mobs, or mobs with low HP, and figure out how many pets it'll take to kill them. Then you can pull 3-4 at a time with only a little bit of rest afterwards.

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Postby emanius » Jan 07, 2017 14:33

Pezzor wrote:Well when I did it the first time, I put 1 point into earth for self BT. However, that does put you 1 level behind for new pets in ice. I found it useful enough to not have an issue with that.

However, with launch, I think I am skipping getting the BT and going full ice to stay on level with pets. For solo I did straight ice until like 30 or 35?

This time around I will probably do earth a little quicker b/c I will likely be grouping more.

For skills, I usually could take 3 yellows at once with 2-3 pets on each and then sit and cast a DD if needed.
Could usually go 2 rounds of this before I sat for a minute and then rinse/repeat. (this is really after 20 though b/c KT's are the jam)

thanks really appreciated :hammer:

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Postby Eddie » Jan 07, 2017 16:24

Pezzor wrote:
Eddie wrote:if necro is 10 i d say Theu is 4, you can shoot out 5 pets and kill a red, but then you ll need to rest mana :D

the best solo spec shoudl be air, as you get a spec DD which gives you the best damage/power ratio, but solo theu is gona be hell, you ll never be 50, its not a necro.



LOL that is a load of crap. Theurs rape solo. You have to be smart about your power, but you never kill reds it's not worth it. I can spam yellows all day and only have to rest for like 30 sec increments. You'll never it 50, ya ok.

And I disagree with the air thing. I play ice/earth and dominate every aspect of the game. Never turned down for a group bc I have all the right things in earth, and my Ice allows me to be a hell of a lot more than pet spam in RvR. However, for leveling specifically, you can kind of go any route you want. They all have their pros and cons. I just prefer ice.

Frankly I think Theurg is easy to level.

Edit: I played theur in beta and had zero trouble whatsoever leveling solo. I am also a theurg on live.


I never said you should kill reds. No matter how smart you can be with your mana you ll always have a limit, dictated by your class, and even played perfectly and optimizing mana at yor best you ll never compare to a casually played necro, which is what he was asking.

I ve no doubt you did fine with your earth/ice spec in groups and in general for leveling, but he said he was planning to solo and wanted to know how worse theu was compared to necro, he didnt ask how did theu do in grps and in general. Solo theu to 1 to 50, like a necro, MADNESS.

Air is superior compared to Ice for solo, cos does more dmg per mana spent and has spirit dmg, you can easly find undeads you have bonus on in albion, just like a necro. I never said Ice is bad, he was specifically asking for SOLO leveling.

Having an opinion is all right, but before calling crap on what some1 else said be sure you got your facts straight first. You r the one full of crap with your generic "i always rekked everywhere" and "i kill one mob every 30 secs" answers :D

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Postby Pezzor » Jan 07, 2017 22:54

Yes, Eddie.. let the salt flow through you. Your comments were incorrect which is where the CRAP came from. Anyone reading can see that.

However, I have no interest in arguing with you. I simply wanted to prevent you from giving false information to someone who doesn't know that much about the classes. I succeeded.

Conversation over.

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Postby Eddie » Jan 08, 2017 03:03

Conversation over indeed, there is no point in talking into some1 who is just straight up assuming he is right all the time, despite not having any concrete info supporting what he is saying.

Im not even gona comment on the salt and incorrect info stuff, and I cant say I didnt try either. Have a nice day :D

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Postby HulkGris » Jan 08, 2017 11:29

In Uthgard V1, i leveled a theurgist, and solo was not a pain. Specced Ice / Air.
Enough in Ice line to have pet level not capped by the spell.
I had a good stuff btw, and some mana and regen mana pot.
You'll have to choose mob where you have damage bonus (undead usually)
To optimize xp, i attacked multiple target at the same time, to avoid wating after your pet to do damage while doing nothing (the pet put you in combat, useless to sit down to get mana back faster). Usually 2 pets by target if i remember correctly, not casted side by side of course, or both will melee the target after 2 casts.
The low level air dd, cost efficient, is here to finish mobs who survived.

On Uthgard v1 there was fireworks that give regen mana. It will be harder in Uthgard v2.
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Postby Kenose » Jan 09, 2017 05:08

theurgist is the best class next to friar for staff melee spec


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