Tireless RA says right now in game :

Your character regenerates endurance in combat.
Level 1 : Amount 1 pts
Level 2 : Amount 2 pts
etc.
basically 1 point for each level.
So does it stack with endo pots? Cant really test it right now, would be nice if a GM could answer this.
Will be online ingame in like 10 hours from now and on Uthgard TS. If anyone wants to test it with me, let me know.
Thanks.

Tireless (Old RA version) isn't really the same thing as endo regen from a pot or buff.
Instead, it allows you to regen a very small amount of endurance when you're moving or in combat (where you would normally regain nothing without an endo buff).

So I believe they "stack" in that sense but Old RA Tireless is so bad I wouldn't even take 1 rank.

Unfortunately this has been well research and it's quite accurate to 1.65.

Nezix wrote:Tireless (Old RA version) isn't really the same thing as endo regen from a pot or buff.
Instead, it allows you to regen a very small amount of endurance when you're moving or in combat (where you would normally regain nothing without an endo buff).

So I believe they "stack" in that sense but Old RA Tireless is so bad I wouldn't even take 1 rank.

Unfortunately this has been well research and it's quite accurate to 1.65.

According to the ''wording'' ingame right now, it is the same value exactly as an endo pot (but how often would it tick? same as endo pot? dont know that,need to test it!!), but only when in combat. So for tanks, it would be quite useful.
It might be a way to overcome the endo problem that us tanks in albion are going to have. Having Tireless 2 and endo pot 3 (easy to make, cheap to buy, no need to grind mats), would equal endo 5, which is same as shaman red endo buff, bard red endo song and paladin red endo chant IF the regen rate of this RA is the same as a pot.

Will need to have someone online from another realm and on ts with me later on to test it and see the actual endo regen rate.

Tireless can't be compared to endo regen, test it you will see. Old tireless sux hard.

Don't get Tireless.

It's beyond garbage.

Tireless is absolute useless and not like an endu pot at all. As a tank in Albion you want high lw and/or farm mats for endu4 pots.

The thing is, you reg 0 without it. Tested PvE earlier. My lvl50 hero was at 0 endu for like a full minute while fighting a Mob.
Couldn´t do any styles. Prolly gonna be the same in RvR.

You also noticed that you don´t seem to have any Endureg whatsoever if you are moving unless you get some sort of Enduregbuff.

iirc tireless ticks every 8 secs in combat/running, without tireless there is no regen at all

Tireless only adds to the amount of end regenerated whilst in combat. It does not change the frequency of each tick.

For example, you start by gaining 0 end per tick whilst in combat. Adding tireless 1 will then add 1 per tick whilst in combat.




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barto22 wrote:Tireless only adds to the amount of end regenerated whilst in combat. It does not change the frequency of each tick.

For example, you start by gaining 0 end per tick whilst in combat. Adding tireless 1 will then add 1 per tick whilst in combat.

I did not experience this ingame.
I tried a Tireless 4, and activate "in combat" state by attacking doll, and i see only a regen of 1 end every 8 sec.
It seems that Tireless 1 and Tireless 4 are the same ****** thing.

HulkGris wrote:

barto22 wrote:Tireless only adds to the amount of end regenerated whilst in combat. It does not change the frequency of each tick.

For example, you start by gaining 0 end per tick whilst in combat. Adding tireless 1 will then add 1 per tick whilst in combat.

I did not experience this ingame.
I tried a Tireless 4, and activate "in combat" state by attacking doll, and i see only a regen of 1 end every 8 sec.
It seems that Tireless 1 and Tireless 4 are the same ****** thing.

Tested from 0% to 100% endurance on firb hero and timed it whilst staying in combat.

Tireless 5 - 6 minutes 39 seconds.
Tireless 1 - 13 minutes 15 seconds.

The 8 seconds interval will never change. Only the amount gained on each tick.
Massive waste of points imo.

barto22 wrote:Tireless 5 - 6 minutes 39 seconds.
Tireless 1 - 13 minutes 15 seconds.

The 8 seconds interval will never change. Only the amount gained on each tick.

I checked it ingame right now, and that's the opposite. Each level of tireless reduce the duration between each tick by 1 sec. But the amount of endurance gained is still 1.

Tireless 1 : gives + 1 end / 8 sec.
Tireless 2 : gives + 1 end / 7 sec.
Tireless 3 : gives + 1 end / 6 sec.
Tireless 4 : gives + 1 end / 5 sec.
Tireless 5 : gives + 1 end / 4 sec.

And it matches the duration you have timed. Tireless 5 is twice faster than Tireless 1 since duration between tick is halved.

HulkGris wrote:

barto22 wrote:Tireless 5 - 6 minutes 39 seconds.
Tireless 1 - 13 minutes 15 seconds.

The 8 seconds interval will never change. Only the amount gained on each tick.

I checked it ingame right now, and that's the opposite. Each level of tireless reduce the duration between each tick by 1 sec. But the amount of endurance gained is still 1.

Tireless 1 : gives + 1 end / 8 sec.
Tireless 2 : gives + 1 end / 7 sec.
Tireless 3 : gives + 1 end / 6 sec.
Tireless 4 : gives + 1 end / 5 sec.
Tireless 5 : gives + 1 end / 4 sec.

And it matches the duration you have timed. Tireless 5 is twice faster than Tireless 1 since duration between tick is halved.

I see, so tireless 1 actually gives you +1. and tireless 2 gives you -1s. Wonderful..

barto22 wrote:I see, so tireless 1 actually gives you +1. and tireless 2 gives you -1s. Wonderful..

Yeah, Tireless 5 is like a Regen end 0.25

Amazing ! Imo, this 1.65-like feature looks like a 1.65-like bugged feature.

barto22 wrote:

HulkGris wrote:

barto22 wrote:Tireless 5 - 6 minutes 39 seconds.
Tireless 1 - 13 minutes 15 seconds.

The 8 seconds interval will never change. Only the amount gained on each tick.

I checked it ingame right now, and that's the opposite. Each level of tireless reduce the duration between each tick by 1 sec. But the amount of endurance gained is still 1.

Tireless 1 : gives + 1 end / 8 sec.
Tireless 2 : gives + 1 end / 7 sec.
Tireless 3 : gives + 1 end / 6 sec.
Tireless 4 : gives + 1 end / 5 sec.
Tireless 5 : gives + 1 end / 4 sec.

And it matches the duration you have timed. Tireless 5 is twice faster than Tireless 1 since duration between tick is halved.

I see, so tireless 1 actually gives you +1. and tireless 2 gives you -1s. Wonderful..

Thank you both for this info.