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Postby toaky » Jun 06, 2016 07:43

@kroko will you be implementing static maps for the frontier zones as a part of the maps?
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Postby Steel- » Jun 06, 2016 11:52

Hello, you mentioned the Linux support will happen, but this will also be MacOSX support?

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Postby Sillyfish » Jun 06, 2016 14:49

I simply don't believe you that there are more people who want Current skins over Old Darkness Falls textures. My issue had enough Yes votes to maintain a total of 105 yes despite all the No's people votes that subtracted a positive.

Just look at this thread and you'll see multiple people who had no idea the survey was going on and didn't have a chance to vote. I am CERTAIN that had this been more public you would see vastly different results.


I am very disappointed in the Uthgard team regarding their decision on this matter. The evidence in favor of it was incontrovertible and you know it. Your survey sample size was tiny.

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Postby Bubbler » Jun 06, 2016 14:49

Well thanks for the update.


I completely missed the survey, but o well. All of these changes seem good although I am still not a fan of allowing PL through the XP calculation but I know it was there on live so no argument here. Just prefer an actual PvE experience rather than welfare 50's through constant PL groups.

Otherwise, glad to see the survey and hear the changes. Thanks!
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Postby Exploder » Jun 06, 2016 15:09

Are drop rates fixed? I haven't played in awhile, but that was a MAJOR issue when I was playing. Literally had 1 piece of armor drop by level 8 and nothing else (on Mid).
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Postby riad » Jun 06, 2016 16:36

Sillyfish wrote:I simply don't believe you that there are more people who want Current skins over Old Darkness Falls textures. My issue had enough Yes votes to maintain a total of 105 yes despite all the No's people votes that subtracted a positive.

Just look at this thread and you'll see multiple people who had no idea the survey was going on and didn't have a chance to vote. I am CERTAIN that had this been more public you would see vastly different results.


I am very disappointed in the Uthgard team regarding their decision on this matter. The evidence in favor of it was incontrovertible and you know it. Your survey sample size was tiny.


a feature with which i can punch people in the face via internet is something i'd second before any of that.

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Postby Capass7x1 » Jun 06, 2016 18:43

Sillyfish wrote:I simply don't believe you that there are more people who want Current skins over Old Darkness Falls textures. My issue had enough Yes votes to maintain a total of 105 yes despite all the No's people votes that subtracted a positive.

Just look at this thread and you'll see multiple people who had no idea the survey was going on and didn't have a chance to vote. I am CERTAIN that had this been more public you would see vastly different results.


I am very disappointed in the Uthgard team regarding their decision on this matter. The evidence in favor of it was incontrovertible and you know it. Your survey sample size was tiny.

Lol

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Postby Gliss » Jun 06, 2016 18:50

Put up a new survey about these new power regin rates for casters. I guarantee people will want the regin rates back
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Postby Exploder » Jun 06, 2016 18:56

Post by Sillyfish » Jun 06, 2016 14:49

I simply don't believe you that there are more people who want Current skins over Old Darkness Falls textures. My issue had enough Yes votes to maintain a total of 105 yes despite all the No's people votes that subtracted a positive.

Just look at this thread and you'll see multiple people who had no idea the survey was going on and didn't have a chance to vote. I am CERTAIN that had this been more public you would see vastly different results.


I am very disappointed in the Uthgard team regarding their decision on this matter. The evidence in favor of it was incontrovertible and you know it. Your survey sample size was tiny.


The staff said, "For now, we will leave the looks of the capitols cities and DF as they are (55% of users asked us to keep this)" i.e. this is something that could change in the future. I don't know why you're freaking about this honestly and I don't understand the fascination with old DF/capitol cities. Shouldn't we be more concerned about bugs that actually affect the game?
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Postby Jafeeio » Jun 06, 2016 19:55

I answered the survey under the impression that we were only deciding about capital cities, DF was lumped in later after the fact.
Clearly a lot more people care about old DF than old capital cities as you can see by the issue tracker votes, so I'm a bit miffed too.

That being said, it is what it is . We have bigger fish to fry and getting this server ready for launch is the #1 priority :hammer:

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Postby tummeh » Jun 06, 2016 23:23

The question on the poll was "Old Capitols Towns or New Capitol Towns?", and from that you conclude that old DF is not wanted? I hope this is just an error.

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Postby Budikah » Jun 06, 2016 23:56

Sillyfish wrote:I simply don't believe you that there are more people who want Current skins over Old Darkness Falls textures. My issue had enough Yes votes to maintain a total of 105 yes despite all the No's people votes that subtracted a positive.

Just look at this thread and you'll see multiple people who had no idea the survey was going on and didn't have a chance to vote. I am CERTAIN that had this been more public you would see vastly different results.


I am very disappointed in the Uthgard team regarding their decision on this matter. The evidence in favor of it was incontrovertible and you know it. Your survey sample size was tiny.


I knew as soon as I looked at the survey results that I'd see you here touting some garbage over it. Most people really don't care one way or another, it seems like such a petty issue compared to everything else to discuss first. Sure, you can put it at the very end of the list of things to do - but even then - why bother making a big deal of it now when it clearly isn't going to get done within a year or two?

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Postby DrTandtheWomen » Jun 07, 2016 04:12

Sorry Silly the silent majority has spoken...
most players feel old skins should be an extremely low priority and thankfully prize classic game play over selective nostalgia.

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Postby TheKrokodil » Jun 07, 2016 05:23

riad wrote:
Sillyfish wrote:I simply don't believe you that there are more people who want Current skins over Old Darkness Falls textures. My issue had enough Yes votes to maintain a total of 105 yes despite all the No's people votes that subtracted a positive.

Just look at this thread and you'll see multiple people who had no idea the survey was going on and didn't have a chance to vote. I am CERTAIN that had this been more public you would see vastly different results.

I am very disappointed in the Uthgard team regarding their decision on this matter. The evidence in favor of it was incontrovertible and you know it. Your survey sample size was tiny.


a feature with which i can punch people in the face via internet is something i'd second before any of that.


I don't know what you want us to do. We gave you -- the community -- the option to vote on the matter. I made sure to wait until responses to the survey plummeted, and gave it another few days extra. We can only do what you actually tell us. IMHO the poll was very public -- it was on the front news page for an entire week. And the news page is our primary means of reaching out to players.

I purposefully decided to leave the number of responses collected in the graphics, even though I know that someone is going to complain about it. But I also feel like that is something the community should take with a grain of salt: Everyone always says they read all the instructions, all the patch notes, and everything -- but most of them either can't even read through 60% of a news post, or do not care enough to submit a survey result.

The question on the poll was "Old Capitols Towns or New Capitol Towns?", and from that you conclude that old DF is not wanted? I hope this is just an error.


You can blame me for that. I'm sorry. I realized too late that I didn't add the DF question to the poll. So I was debating on whether we should leave it out and not mention it at all, or cluster it with the capital town options. I briefly surveyed the staff, and decided for the latter.
If you care for my reasoning: I'm assuming that most of the players voted "no" for the old capitals because either (a) they don't like the old graphics, or (b) they think that it would take us too much work to implement, and they don't care about it at this point. And if both those reasons are the main reasons, the very same would apply to the DF change.

The point of the survey was to get a general feel about how the community feels. If 80% of the people were in favor of something, we'd pay more attention to it. Same goes for the map ("why spend time implementing something if the community doesn't even want it?"). In general, as long as it is roughly split half in half, there is not much we can do.

I'm sure we can revisit this decision again once we have relaunched, because then the "omg this shouldn't block relaunch" argument is out of the equation.
Be nice. :)

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Postby Ohai » Jun 07, 2016 05:38

id rather the game launch first and any texture changes later. every day of beta makes me cry a little more, but i cant stop playing it lol

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