Yes. Does disease works vs IP ?
With old RA, attacking a tank or an hybrid who is solo could be dangerous and tricky, requiring cautions and kiting.
But it seems doable, in that case disease,snare, ddebuff are a must.
But disease is effective vs IP ?

If target purges your poison, is there any immunity ? If so, does this immunity apply to all poisons or the purged one ?
For instance, if your dot is purged, can you apply another dot next or any other poison ?

Disease does nothing against IP. However if you're kiting a tank, this is a case where you have to use Disease, because prereq for IP is First Aid II. And first aid is effected by disease. And you really don't want your opponent to use first aid II and IP in one fight

There are no immunities with poison. You can re-apply every posion right after purge.

So i guess they ll use purge only if PA+CD or dragonfang, to purge the stun more than poisons

disease also does a little str debuff if it isn't changed in 1.65

Yeah -25 str debuff i think, irrelevant

Even less. Afair str debuff was lower than 10 str. Will check later if i can find the correct value again.

Got it. Found a little test made in 2006. If there was no change (cannot remember) this should be roughly the same on Uthgard. On the one side this test proved, that my memory was rigt (below 10), but on the other side, I learned someting new

Disease seems to debuff str randomly.
From this test:

Buffed 328 str --> 318 and 319 str after disease
Unbuffed 178 str --> 172 and 169 after disease

http://daoc-guide.4players.de/forums/ar ... 37834.html

Disease still an amazing tool, situational, but incredibly useful as it was mentioned above if you ambushing a duo with one healing class.
It has also a small snare and small str debuff, better than nothing.
It does not work on IP but on first aid and healing potion is already fair enough.

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/disea ... 250710800/

It seems to be a % of BASE strenght.

Autarch wrote:http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/disease-poison.250710800/

It seems to be a % of BASE strenght.

That is too simplified!

Try to disease someone on Pendragon:
Like a 100 base str troll,
then with 100 + base str,
then with 100 + spec str/con,
then with 100 + base str + spec str/con,
then with 100 + 75 from items + base str,
then with 100 + 75 from items + spec str/con,
then with 100 + 75 from items + base str + spec str/con.

I reported it a few years back, but I am unsure if it actually got correctly implemented or not.

Swapping weapons after every hit? How many weapons do you carry around anyway? Seems a little excessive to me.

HatTrick wrote:Swapping weapons after every hit? How many weapons do you carry around anyway? Seems a little excessive to me.

you will cry if you knew how many weapons carry most assassins

Ilerget wrote:

HatTrick wrote:Swapping weapons after every hit? How many weapons do you carry around anyway? Seems a little excessive to me.

you will cry if you knew how many weapons carry most assassins

Why assasins only?
Uthgard 2.0 allows poison bots as far as I know.
Gonna run a full inventory of poisoned weapons.

Celteen wrote:Why assasins only?
Uthgard 2.0 allows poison bots as far as I know.
Gonna run a full inventory of poisoned weapons.

I wonder where you will put your pots

I would always open with dot. You want to maximise your initial burst dmg as much as possible. Hence thr perfect opener being PA. If you miss creeping death or stunning stab and somehow get quick cast rooted or mezzed or something then it would be nice to know that the opponents health is dropping too. Open with dot and disease then reapply dot when you can. Of course use s/c debuff against a fighter. No point opening with s/c and disease unless you are planning on a lengthy fight which to me seems pretty backwards.


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S/c debuff gives you most at first hit and full hp. You want this first. Should be more then a dot tick