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Cell_Maley
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by Cell_Maley » Apr 17, 2016 20:30
ahah norlin, that's an idea :p
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Brzzl
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by Brzzl » Apr 17, 2016 20:55
HOLY ******!! Live is getting sense again 
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Botanist
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by Botanist » Apr 17, 2016 20:58
norlin wrote:What are you guys on about. Show you GF corner of keep and how to use /msg, grab your buffs once in awhile, have fun and profit ... an active buffbot is allowed right? 
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Njor
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by Njor » Apr 18, 2016 01:15
norlin wrote:What are you guys on about. Show you GF corner of keep and how to use /msg, grab your buffs once in awhile, have fun and profit ... an active buffbot is allowed right?
hm, am I missing something here? /msg is not a DAoC command afaik? you referring to the Windows command msg? cheers
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adjuchas_brokk
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by adjuchas_brokk » Apr 18, 2016 11:03
Njor wrote:norlin wrote:What are you guys on about. Show you GF corner of keep and how to use /msg, grab your buffs once in awhile, have fun and profit ... an active buffbot is allowed right?
hm, am I missing something here? /msg is not a DAoC command afaik? you referring to the Windows command msg? cheers
/msg sounds a bit WoW to me  /send or /tell for private message.
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Jarqo
- Eagle Knight
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by Jarqo » Apr 18, 2016 11:03
adjuchas_brokk wrote:Njor wrote:norlin wrote:What are you guys on about. Show you GF corner of keep and how to use /msg, grab your buffs once in awhile, have fun and profit ... an active buffbot is allowed right?
hm, am I missing something here? /msg is not a DAoC command afaik? you referring to the Windows command msg? cheers
/msg sounds a bit WoW to me  /send or /tell for private message.
in wow is /w or /whisper 
Best Sniper Ranger on Uthgard since 2007. Looking for maps? Try http://jarqo91.wix.com/daoccamps
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adjuchas_brokk
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by adjuchas_brokk » Apr 18, 2016 11:26
Jarqo wrote:in wow is /w or /whisper 
I didn't play long enough to keep it in mind, insufficient RvR action in that game 
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Gil
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by Gil » Apr 18, 2016 11:45
norlin wrote:What are you guys on about. Show you GF corner of keep and how to use /msg, grab your buffs once in awhile, have fun and profit ... an active buffbot is allowed right?
If you and the 'GF' share the same IP addy, the GMs are likely to assume that she and you COULD be the same player. That would cause them to message her and if she never answers they could well assume she is your bot. Then both accounts are in trouble. My advice is to play they game with real friends, not with bots.
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Chanoine
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by Chanoine » Apr 18, 2016 12:48
Maybe they will mark the accounts as "legit" or "verified" so if the GF/whoever actually play the game you're safe even if your companion goes for a toilet break and you push a few buttons for 10 minutes.
I really dont know how they police this stuff (but in the end I believe this is a good rule to force some fairness in-game)
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Amisch
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by Amisch » Apr 18, 2016 12:50
Gil wrote:norlin wrote:What are you guys on about. Show you GF corner of keep and how to use /msg, grab your buffs once in awhile, have fun and profit ... an active buffbot is allowed right?
If you and the 'GF' share the same IP addy, the GMs are likely to assume that she and you COULD be the same player. That would cause them to message her and if she never answers they could well assume she is your bot. Then both accounts are in trouble. My advice is to play they game with real friends, not with bots.
I remember times at Uth 1.0 where they let you jump a 8 with both characters simultaneously if they suspected one player is a bot... Try that when playing both characters the same time 
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Ohai
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by Ohai » Apr 18, 2016 15:24
jeff_daoj wrote:For me its more of a logistic problem created by some of Uthgard's new policies...
Let's try and build an Alb tank group pug:
Problem with Alb is exacerbated by the fact that buff bots are also banned (custom change from 1.65). *Add this to the fact there is a lack of charges for Albs (no S/C charge, maybe DQ?) now can't even buff a full group with 2 clerics! (40 Buffs total between both clerics: 8 base con, 8 base dex, 4 base strength/ 8 DQ, 8S/C, 8 Spec AF ... gives you a total of 44 buffs Everybody in your group will need to make sure they have the one charge item in Alb that gives you DQ! But we are pugging so we don't know for sure:
So you add a friar which makes a basic group have:
Cleric/Cleric/Friar
Now you want to PUG but oh boy the guy you picked up doesn't have 80 end pots in his inventory and nobody has any to sell so you have to add a paladin..
Cleric/Cleric/Friar/Paladin
Ok awesome - we almost have a core! OH WAIT ... we need some kind of speed class... hmm...
Cleric/Cleric/Friar/Paladin/Minstrel
******! We still need to have someone that can mez on inc and has root abilities..
Cleric/Cleric/Friar/Paladin/Minstrel/Sorc
ALRIGHT NOW WE'RE COOKING. You only need six classes to form a group that has the equivalent to the other realms. Also since Uthgard now doesn't allow account sharing, you need to make sure that those six people are always around anytime you are wanting to RvR. Unfortunately, most of us arent 18 anymore and can't make that kind of obligation to video games.
Compare this to Hib: Druid/Druid/Bard - All you need! Now you can take any random collection of 5 classes and you have a functional group.
Mid: Healer/Healer/Shaman/Skald - Since mid has a plethora of charges in 1.65, one shaman will be able to cover the group's buffs sufficiently.
That's a huge problem for any Alb group that is looking to run or be created. That doesn't even go into the effectiveness of the group makeup... that is just trying to create a speed6 group that has full buffs!
Due to the custom changes on Uthgard from 1.65 of 1. No Buffbots 2. No account sharing
Albion is by far the realm hurt most by these custom changes. No buffbots and a lack of viable charges forces Alb to seriously consider running a third buffing class and with no account sharing it makes it incredibly hard to create groups. Some simple changes that would not go against the server ruleset and would help offset the custom changes implemented by the Uthgard staff that arent true to 1.65 are:
1. Add items with charges to Albion or make charges available for all realms in DF (Legion, princes). This would help offset the lack of charges and would make owning DF even more important instilling a sense of realm pride and cohesiveness. 2. Consider another look at your account-sharing policy. Albion is not such a daunting task for 10-12 people if you are able to log on a friend's character to help fill a niche group in the class. Nothing is more frustrating then having 8 people ready to go but you don't have a cleric.
TL;DR: The price of the cup is too steep.
I see your point Jeff, however your wording makes it sound worse than it is (like friars and palas wont do anything) Tank Grp: Cleric Cleric Sorc Minstrel Paladin 3xTanks. Gives you a solid train of 4 (5 if you include sorc (something healer cant do), as mini is rupting). If Pala gets rooted he purges, if purge is down he intercepts someone to break it. Not useless, just needs some brains behind it. Buff issue you say in this group.... 8x con, 8x strcon, 4x str, 8x dex, 8x dexquick, 3x specAF 1x Int (4 tanks dont need AF). Thats 40 buffs, its done. Nothing wrong with also adding a Friar into the tank train, if he gets rooted he just switches to heals where some dumb skald will come break his root for healing. Remember the Sorc is also doing dps and can assist the tanks, unlike the healer, because of mini + pet + sorc pet being on rupts too Caster Grp: Cleric Cleric Minstrel Sorc (4x lots of variables) Here we have a lot more variance to the group than Midgard and Hib, with the main CC also being part of the assist train. So to counter your argument that Mid has CC built into its heals, Alb says we have DPS built into our CC. This gives us a possible assist train of FIVE all hitting zero resists no matter what setup it is from body fire spirit assists (Pala really isnt needed in assist boom groups, but if you must, then he can peel and you still have a 4 man assist). if just 4 of them 5 get a nuke off, the target is dead. If Alb get the first mez off, first target is dead. Nothing you can do. Theyll just push you over at that point, youll be 2 or 3 men down before a tank even gets into them. As for buffs in the caster group, 8x con, 8x dex, 8x strcon, 8x dexquick, and 8 buffs for Int/specAF. Its doable not really handicapped if a few have a charge item. The price of the cup is not so steep my friend!
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An7ony
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by An7ony » Apr 18, 2016 15:56
I remember trying to get my GF into DAoC
she rolled a Lurikeen and called her sparklesocks, I made the mistake of showing her /dance ...she never made it past level 1
We are married now with 3 kids and it's our eldest's 11th birthday tomorrow, so perhaps it was for the best.
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Isuni
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by Isuni » Apr 18, 2016 16:38
An7ony wrote:I remember trying to get my GF into DAoC
she rolled a Lurikeen and called her sparklesocks, I made the mistake of showing her /dance ...she never made it past level 1
We are married now with 3 kids and it's our eldest's 11th birthday tomorrow, so perhaps it was for the best.
You just made my day,thank you! 
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Ilerget
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by Ilerget » Apr 18, 2016 16:57
An7ony wrote:I remember trying to get my GF into DAoC
she rolled a Lurikeen and called her sparklesocks, I made the mistake of showing her /dance ...she never made it past level 1
We are married now with 3 kids and it's our eldest's 11th birthday tomorrow, so perhaps it was for the best.
You showed her to dance in game and she showed you how to dance irl 
It's the thrill of the chase and I'm coming after you.
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ACrispyTaco
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by ACrispyTaco » Apr 18, 2016 17:31
An7ony wrote:I remember trying to get my GF into DAoC
she rolled a Lurikeen and called her sparklesocks, I made the mistake of showing her /dance ...she never made it past level 1
We are married now with 3 kids and it's our eldest's 11th birthday tomorrow, so perhaps it was for the best.
3 kids... You need a blessing of protection.
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