Ingjard wrote:"blabla give paladin det" at least you must provide class respec to these poor paladins.
"more blabla"

Outphaze wrote:

backman66 wrote:I'm not rolling Alb because ...

This is the problem. Tons of people already set to roll hib/mid. Alb will be severely underpopulated.

Outphaze wrote:I'll make two points.

1) Alb did fine on genesis because endo chant was worthless. No one used it on any realm. They had custom changes to lw and tireless that made endo pots more than sufficient. LW and tireless stacked (I don't think they will on genesis), tireless gave endo ticks more frequently on genesis than they will on uthgard, and tireless also gave 2 endo / tick / rank. So tireles 2 lw 1 = perma sprint. It also had 9 charge 10 minute endo3, or 9charge/10min endo 4 pots, so you could perma sprint and still regain 3-4 endo a tick. All tanks from all realms were happy.

With endo changes on uth, it will be impossible for tanks to chase in sprint while spamming styles. In fact, if you don't have endo 4-5, you won't be able to regain any endo while sprinting (assuming you have lw2). This means alb will be at a big disadvantage in fights because they'll be competing using endo 3 the entire fight while hib and mid get endo 5. 2 extra endo a tick is a big difference for tanks, and we'll see it because hib and mid will be able to style more and sprint/chase longer. If you want to use endo heal pots, it will be even harder since the reuse time is 1 minute (I think?), and you aren't looking at how long your 2 min endo regen pot has left when you use the insta heal... = more time without endo regen.

2) Probably most important, the perception of the inequality is of biggest concern. People who have any knowledge of 8v8 understand that alb is going to be at a disadvantage. They don't want to put up with BS that is a) never roaming in speed 6 b) constantly crafting/buying pots and c) suffering mid-fight from endo 3.... so they won't go alb. Lower population = less keeps, more imbalance, less DF, less zergs, less relics --> more frustrated population all culminating in an exodus of the realm. The ONLY thing alb has going for it is the lower pop realm never has a shortage of enemies.

You can keep saying "people will play what they want and everything will be unicorns and rainbows and people will be happy" and you will continue to have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Honestly, this isn't the "endo" of my suggestions either. The two main changes I see needing to happen on any old RA server is 1) pallys getting det and 2) giving cure NS. I'd also like to see buff shears but that isn't as crucial.

Rent wrote:You kill the shamy/bard... problem solved.

P.S.: Rerolling on Alb. (Way to AMG is soooo far away as Hib XD)

Panini wrote:Is the skald stunability always after Block in 1.65? or is it after sidestyle?

Example in the hammer line: Level 21 Revenge (after block) > Level 34 Thor's Answer (After Revenge) (7s Stun)
This according to Nixian's Builder.

All tanks from all realms were happy.

Nezix wrote:

All tanks from all realms were happy.

Yeah but I bet the caster's weren't. Did we already decide that casters were at a disadvantage here? Hmm maybe without broken tireless that will help. Those changes weren't custom on Genesis, they were just bugs because they didn't know any better.

falscheneun wrote:

Ingjard wrote:"blabla give paladin det" at least you must provide class respec to these poor paladins.
"more blabla"

quality first post i must say!

i know some of the genesis folks dont wanna hear this but this is neither the genesis forum nor are the GMs anything like the spineless ones over there. you guys can demand all you want, endo pots wont be changed to 10min just because you could basically get any change you wanted on genesis and expect it to be the same over here.

just deal with it. ill say it again, pop a pot right before inc, get higher tireless/LW...

Ingjard wrote:lol, yes i asked the gensis gm's constantly for custom changes, you know exactly what i did over there. /s

I never even said give paladins det. I only want to know which way the GMs will go on this situation cuz if they change their minds down the road it will suck for paladins mostly.

Outphaze wrote:

Ingjard wrote:lol, yes i asked the gensis gm's constantly for custom changes, you know exactly what i did over there. /s

I never even said give paladins det. I only want to know which way the GMs will go on this situation cuz if they change their minds down the road it will suck for paladins mostly.

Paladins won't be invited whether the endo pot timer is 2mins or 10 minutes. The only way they're going to get invited is if they have det. End of story.

Ingjard wrote:The difference is obviously in 10min endo pots you won't invite a paladin. but with 2min endo pots...will you play alb? lol

e: I'm annoyed cuz i wanna play alb (played it the least) but it sounds like it will be pretty lame!

Outphaze wrote:

Ingjard wrote:End of story.

Nezix wrote:This will help explain what is out of sync on the Nixian builder:
http://www.uthgard.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=35966