Trishin wrote:

Raifs wrote:

roeya wrote:We can speaking with all players with chat lfg ?

Yes

No

Thank GOD I can't stand that bullshit anymore.

Outphaze wrote:pala something, something

Outphaze wrote:bla bla, det 3

Outphaze wrote:don't hurt meh feels

Outphaze wrote:qq, some more qq, first tears

Outphaze wrote:glurp, glurp

Outphaze wrote:pala bad, det bad, alb bad, erryting bad

Outphaze wrote: ... glurp, sneeze, wipe, some more tears ...

Outphaze wrote:takes a deep breath

c'mon man, i gotcha

Outphaze is right, the endu issue should be addressed. Atleast make a poll and ask the players if they prefer 1 charge pots or 9 charge pots ( Could even ask if they want barrels ).

One of the reasons DAoC is such a good game is because it has 3 factions. And the staff talks about realm pride. If you want to have competetive PvP'ers on all realms you need to address the endu issue, otherwise DAoC will turn into a 2 realm game ( PvP wise ).

Alb has some of the most powerful 8vs8 classes in the entire game (sorc, theurgist, minstrel when played right) - 2 charmable pets, pet spam from theurgist, 2 demezzes, bolt range mezz, 2 single mezzes, aoe roots (probably 2, depending on specs) and some of the most powerful group RASs (BOF, SOS) ... and people whine because the def tank does not have access to det?

Paladin gets mezzed -> 2 demezzes, one with quick cast
Paladin gets rooted -> go to the paladin for guard, or paladin purges, or paladin has root timer from snares or, you know, f'ing SOS.

The one thing I that I can see being an issue is the 1000 loc range of the Endu chant. But would boosting it to 1500 (same as shaman buff) really help? Pallies are not usually at the front, so tanks will likely be out of range anyway. Whether the Pally is rooted somewhere or not ^^

Yes, Alb is less flexible when it comes to Setups (I would say 4 maybe 5 slots pretty much fixed) - which makes it less fantastic for PUGs. But its incredible strong in 8vs8. And for zergs...for zergs this stuff doesn't matter anyway.

Curou wrote:Atleast make a poll and ask the players...

I agree that alb are powerful in 8v8 and this discussion is frankly a bit surprising to me. Theurgist and Sorcs are ****** monsters

Galandriel3 wrote:

Curou wrote:Atleast make a poll and ask the players...

for sure is his 1st time in this server

riad wrote:

Outphaze wrote:...

c'mon man, i gotcha

You sir, made my day!

Curou wrote:same complains

Aw c'mon now, will everyone from genesis show up here now and complain about endu pots and paladins? It's gettin reeeeaaaallly boring.

If you don't like it, stay on your empty server. If you REALLY do have interest in giving CONSTRUCTIVE feedback, let me give you a hint, do not do it in a news section and do not open your sentences with things like "staff is stupid because" "staff will kill action because" or other childish stuff.

This is directed mainly to Outphaze: We hear you, we got your point. (no, i mean, really. we re not dumb, we got it)

Now, would you mind talking about something else than weak palas, albs and pots? I mean, i read nearly 10 pages where you wrote the same over and over again. Its getting annoying and I started to overlook your posts completely. From that position (being overread because people expect you to write the same over and over again) completely contradicts your ambitions on making the server better (read: better from your POV) before it even opened (...) and will lead you to a dead end.

Take a break from posting, try to gain a bit of emotional distance and think about which other, constructive, ways there are for you to try to take influence and how people will see you as someone authentic that is to be taken seriously.

Now, please everyone, can we move on to other topics?

Paladins need their own thread.

Curou wrote:Outphaze is right, the endu issue should be addressed. Atleast make a poll and ask the players if they prefer 1 charge pots or 9 charge pots ( Could even ask if they want barrels ).

One of the reasons DAoC is such a good game is because it has 3 factions. And the staff talks about realm pride. If you want to have competetive PvP'ers on all realms you need to address the endu issue, otherwise DAoC will turn into a 2 realm game ( PvP wise ).

Almost 4 years after barrel's removal, and people are still on it

hot gurlzzz

Zappo wrote:

Curou wrote:same complains

Aw c'mon now, will everyone from genesis show up here now and complain about endu pots and paladins? It's gettin reeeeaaaallly boring.

If you don't like it, stay on your empty server. If you REALLY do have interest in giving CONSTRUCTIVE feedback, let me give you a hint, do not do it in a news section and do not open your sentences with things like "staff is stupid because" "staff will kill action because" or other childish stuff.

Some people think that if they shout loudly and angrily for long enough then they get their way (worked in the IT services industry for long enough to know this), the key is to give those people the lowest priority

Zappo wrote:Now, please everyone, can we move on to other topics?

What is everyone's favourite XP spots from 1-20 (state the realm and zone if you can remember them!).

My most favourite spot early game for MID is the beach SE of Fort Atla in Gotar, wee wolves, rock crabs and occassionally the Kraken

adjuchas_brokk wrote:What is everyone's favourite XP spots from 1-20 (state the realm and zone if you can remember them!).

My most favourite spot early game for MID is the beach SE of Fort Atla in Gotar, wee wolves, rock crabs and occassionally the Kraken

Good idea, but lets try to list non-dungeons because that will help more if they're flooded! (I know yours isn't but I don't want to see Tomb of Mithra twelve times either)

I remember way back in the day leveling on slavers and faerie camps on Salisbury Plains, I think that's in the 14s-18s. Then a little higher moving to the centurions by the broken bridge / tower.

Moondragon1 wrote:Paladins need their own server.

Fixed

adjuchas_brokk wrote:Some people think that if they shout loudly and angrily for long enough then they get their way (worked in the IT services industry for long enough to know this), the key is to give those people the lowest priority

Zappo wrote:This is directed mainly to Outphaze: We hear you, we got your point. (no, i mean, really. we re not dumb, we got it)

Now, would you mind talking about something else than weak palas, albs and pots? I mean, i read nearly 10 pages where you wrote the same over and over again. Its getting annoying and I started to overlook your posts completely. From that position (being overread because people expect you to write the same over and over again) completely contradicts your ambitions on making the server better (read: better from your POV) before it even opened (...) and will lead you to a dead end.

Take a break from posting, try to gain a bit of emotional distance and think about which other, constructive, ways there are for you to try to take influence and how people will see you as someone authentic that is to be taken seriously.

I haven't been angry or shouting loudly whatsoever. The difference between you guys and me is that I've been arguing this logically and have legitimate reason to think the concerns I raised will happen. I haven't heard one good argument not to consider giving pallys det. Again, this is a huge problem that will affect everyone.

I'm done saying my piece. If people keep quoting me I'll keep responding though.

Lasastard wrote:and people whine because the def tank does not have access to det?

It's not because a def tank doesn't have det, it's that our endu class is completely worthless in 8v8 and won't be getting invited. It would be like giving VWs the endu chant instead of bards (or thanes), except VWs and thanes might actually be a tad more useful in rvr because they have ranged attacks. Would this be fair? Of course not.

The ONLY reason you people are defending this is "bc 1.65." This is stupid. All of this is terribly ironic because in the end everyone (including yourself) will suffer.