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Black_Shadow_From_Behond
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Postby Black_Shadow_From_Behond » Jun 04, 2007 12:49

i decide i be a sb what is a good easy 2 paly spec?

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Postby Danny » Jun 04, 2007 13:27

Black_Shadow_From_Behond wrote:i decide i be a sb what is a good easy 2 paly spec?

I'll make you one real quick. But if you don't AT Stealth, forget about it. To AT Stealth you'll need to play as Shadowzerker until level 48 when you have your 12 points to Stealth. This saves you 77 spec points. It's worth it. So remember not to put a single point into Stealth until level 48. Keep LA at even level for exping to 48.

I'd recommend Norseman with 10x Str/Dex/Qui.

39Sword (I hear it's easier to find good swords, that's the sole reason.)
39LA (Comeback + Frosty Gaze = 7s stun = win. K?)
44CS (Rib Separation after Hammy + Leaper after you stun. When you can afford 50 LA just do your backchain) (Snowsquall and Icy Brilliance.)
35Stealth (Will yield a composite Stealth skill of 50 with RR5 + 11 item bonus)
17Env (since Env doesn't work properly here. Otherwise make sure you have skill + skill bonus equal to 37 or 47 for the Str/Con debuff poisons.) (At RR2 you will have a 71pt Str/Con debuff)

If Env doesn't work at all I'd suggest puttin those pts into LA.
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Postby Zaubermaus » Jun 04, 2007 13:41

If you are ingame in Midgard, contact me (maybe Schleichermaus, Zaubermaus, Hammerfall), i would give you some leather armors, you can good wear for xping. =) Cu ingame!

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Postby Pirith » Jun 04, 2007 19:36

Danny wrote:
Black_Shadow_From_Behond wrote:39Sword (I hear it's easier to find good swords, that's the sole reason.)


In fact as SB you will have to choice between slash and slash, so i recommend you slash.

More seriously, it will depend of your way of play, what you like the best to use and of course what lvl 50 choice you will do.

So most 1hand weapon drop with slowest spd (4.2) are, for exemple, axe.
I suggest you to browse allkazham for both type and see what will fit better to you.

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Postby Black_Shadow_From_Behond » Jun 04, 2007 20:57

ty zaubermouse

any 1 els have more specs or difernt tipe of spec for me to look at ?

and ty for ure help i will start lvling my stealther soon i will make name know a bit later

plz i just need to know


best class

best spec with my atrubeutes

a few good specs

and a few nice ideeas to do with my rr points :twisted:

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Postby Zaubermaus » Jun 04, 2007 21:21

Some Input about the Shadowblade and Creation you can find here: http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=26084754

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Postby Kamelkaze » Jun 04, 2007 22:50

Zaubermaus wrote:If you are ingame in Midgard, contact me (maybe Schleichermaus, Zaubermaus, Hammerfall), i would give you some leather armors, you can good wear for xping. =) Cu ingame!

Greetz Zaubermaus


Ah a greykiller in DF :twisted:

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Postby salbei » Jun 04, 2007 23:14

you can totally screw envenom spec here- just due to a mad variance in dot that hardly ever pays off . lifebane will hit for 4xish TOPS so don´t even bother speccing envenom here . just go for raw damage and you´ll be fine.

about the same for con debuffs - they hardly make a difference (unless the enemy is buffed - then you can feel a real difference) - but since mid is the only realm with a str/con charge it is neglectible.

pa+bs have fixed values here - so it doesnt matter what target you hit / your lvl is . just weapondelay+critspec seem to have an influence on those attacks.

try this for a low rr spec - should work perfectly
50 la
35 crit
37 stealth
37 weapon

you could lower crit and raise weapon further - but i highly recomment to keep creeping death (into the la backchain) , shouldn´t be much out there that will survive it.

you can toy around with 2h in the bgs - but not in emain . just not efficient

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Postby panachier » Jun 05, 2007 05:21

at the moment the advantage of envenom is the magical poison that increase the endu used and the time you can kite your enemy with snare+disease. but you have to keep at least a few in envenom ( maybe just the bonus on items) to get disease and snare.

about 2 handed...never really test in stealther vs stealther fight but maybe the bonus 2handed vs 2 wapons can make a difference.

@danny

my template is 50 stealth 50 DW 50 envenom 49 thrust 65 CS and i am only 5L... so why do you tell it's impossible to get 50 in all skills?hmmm yeah only 5 in slash you are true...

and the stun is not at all a " i win" thing. it's so useless i think that i fast respeced my dragonfang. by the way i never got stun by a SB... maybe is the stun chain still on block in pre 1.80.
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Postby salbei » Jun 05, 2007 05:25

of couse you never caught the left axe stun ... cause you vanish ASAP if you see an enemy lol

that endu envenom may work on garotte spammers , but honestly ... when did you have your last 1 on 1 vs a shadowblade ? you either gang up or hunt low lvls

ontopic :

save your time and make a straight char here . playing a stealther here aint worth it- only at those bgs. so no point in discussing a 50 spec

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Postby panachier » Jun 05, 2007 05:35

it's an other advantage of infi... they are alb and on alb stealthers are not only solo chars :-)

mids zerg, hibs rock .. alb has to play stealthed^^

and yeah salbei you are right you are the best we all know... and all the others play bad. sry i forgot to remind that.
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Postby salbei » Jun 05, 2007 05:41

you even vanished vs my rm ffs :lol:

infi IS a solo char, its not like you are a scout and kill anything on your own :roll:

at the current situation you won´t be happy as a stealther here , can only gank blues or leech in the zerg - not really what you need stealth for^^

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Postby Zaubermaus » Jun 05, 2007 06:42

Kamelkaze wrote:
Zaubermaus wrote:If you are ingame in Midgard, contact me (maybe Schleichermaus, Zaubermaus, Hammerfall), i would give you some leather armors, you can good wear for xping. =) Cu ingame!

Greetz Zaubermaus


Ah a greykiller in DF :twisted:


If grey's adding, they will die, by the way, stop whining here, DF is RvR Zone ;)
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