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Postby Roenik » Jun 20, 2015 11:45

Abydos, were you ever on UOSA? (Ultima Online Second Age)
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Postby Donutttt » Jun 20, 2015 14:16

I think the devs are doing what they can to communicate. Some people might not like grab bags, but that might be the best news that is available. People were flaming the devs for not communicating now they're saying that what they're communicating isn't good enough. I can see why they might feel like they can't win, people really need to cut them some slack.

There are arguments either way for whether or not the devs should put out an ETA. In some ways, people would be annoyed if they missed it. But from the other side of the argument, right now it seems to most people like this will simply never be finished, and I think people are worried about that. Uthgard is the only classic daoc server which people really want to play, the only one with staff who are committed to creating a classic experience. If Uthgard doesn't work then maybe nothing will.

As it stands, I don't see what would be lost by getting the server to a purely playable point right now, putting it back up, and working on patches incrementally. I think working towards an arbitrary goal isn't helping anyone. Ok, the devs wanted to reach a certain point before rerelease. But if that is taking longer than they thought, then maybe it's time to get the server going again for the sake of the community. Because if the population is too low, it won't matter what features aren't implemented. No one wants to play on an empty server.

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Postby Jerrian » Jun 20, 2015 14:53

Staff can ´t be blamed nor the community can for some ppl getting impatient because of the long duration the server isn ´t running, it can ´t be helped.

Staff decided to go a very ambitious way as they decided to create a pure 1.65 classic server with old setting and that takes more time then expected but it ´s for a good reason to provide a great service when it ´s finally done at least.

There ´s much work left to do and it ´s very complicated to make any sayings when it will be finished. Everyone with a small knowledge of coding knows it ´s really hard to get any clear date out of it and this is just a free project with limited human ressources, so the repeated question for an ETA isn ´t useful, if they would know, they would of course tell us, right?

Abydos made a point it will be "probably" released this year and shorter then 6 months. Fair enough, ppl should be ok with it, it ´s not an ETA but it ´s better then nothing, and the grab backs aren ´t that bad, I made an overview and most of the valid questions are already answered. Staff made a big improvement in communication, thats ´s great so don ´t cut their arms off when they give you a hand.

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Postby Panini » Jun 20, 2015 19:32

Jerrian wrote:Staff can ´t be blamed nor the community can for some ppl getting impatient because of the long duration the server isn ´t running, it can ´t be helped.

Staff decided to go a very ambitious way as they decided to create a pure 1.65 classic server with old setting and that takes more time then expected but it ´s for a good reason to provide a great service when it ´s finally done at least.

There ´s much work left to do and it ´s very complicated to make any sayings when it will be finished. Everyone with a small knowledge of coding knows it ´s really hard to get any clear date out of it and this is just a free project with limited human ressources, so the repeated question for an ETA isn ´t useful, if they would know, they would of course tell us, right?

Abydos made a point it will be "probably" released this year and shorter then 6 months. Fair enough, ppl should be ok with it, it ´s not an ETA but it ´s better then nothing, and the grab backs aren ´t that bad, I made an overview and most of the valid questions are already answered. Staff made a big improvement in communication, thats ´s great so don ´t cut their arms off when they give you a hand.


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Postby Abydos » Jun 20, 2015 19:53

Roenik wrote:Abydos, were you ever on UOSA? (Ultima Online Second Age)


No I haven't played UO since before playing T4C, which was before EQ, which was obviously before DAOC :-)

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Postby Love me Babby » Jun 20, 2015 20:06

Genesis closed the battle grounds, for "population control" ... sigh.
just want to kill people, but no way am I leveling a toon to 50 there.

I know their server sucks. but I just hope when uth opens back up there are enough of us still around to even play.
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Postby Baman » Jun 20, 2015 23:57

Love me Babby wrote:Genesis closed the battle grounds, for "population control" ... sigh.
just want to kill people, but no way am I leveling a toon to 50 there.

I know their server sucks. but I just hope when uth opens back up there are enough of us still around to even play.


I guarantee there will be 1000+ when it opens.

Think about it. Genesis had that much on opening day and that was for a server that was shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit...
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Postby Austerim » Jun 21, 2015 00:13

And they've had nearly 2 years to turn people off of freeshards so... :oops:
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Postby relvinian » Jun 21, 2015 03:34

Abydos wrote:My favorite part of those old games was the harshness of death and the rawness of life. Robbing people blind while you chat them up? *tears up*


I used to think corp por meant hello.

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Postby Love me Babby » Jun 21, 2015 04:49

relvinian wrote:I used to think corp por meant hello.

LOL


LMAO!

An Ex Por meant Hey wait i wanna give you gold. :D
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Postby Thalien » Jun 21, 2015 07:41

Austerim wrote:And they've had nearly 2 years to turn people off of freeshards so... :oops:


Thats a valid point. Not everyone that started on genesis and got disappointed will try a freeshard again i guess.
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Postby Halysia » Jun 21, 2015 09:56

Love me Babby wrote:I am entitled to my own god damn opinion. If you think for one second that some one is not ENTITLED to their opinion. you got another thing come'n bud. And you need to read my post again. And use your brain this time.


You can have an opinion. You're not entitled to an ETA or anything from the Uthgard team. Whine about these guys doing some hobby in their spare time un-paid all you like, it still doesn't mean they owe you anything, even if it's communicating the state of the server, regardless of if you think it's 'wrong' for them to do so like a parent keeping cake away from a diabetic fat little child. If you think it's wrong and that's 'your opinion' you're welcome to that. I think you're wrong to be such a whiny little ******, though.

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Postby Donutttt » Jun 21, 2015 19:34

Halysia wrote:
Love me Babby wrote:I am entitled to my own god damn opinion. If you think for one second that some one is not ENTITLED to their opinion. you got another thing come'n bud. And you need to read my post again. And use your brain this time.


You can have an opinion. You're not entitled to an ETA or anything from the Uthgard team. Whine about these guys doing some hobby in their spare time un-paid all you like, it still doesn't mean they owe you anything, even if it's communicating the state of the server, regardless of if you think it's 'wrong' for them to do so like a parent keeping cake away from a diabetic fat little child. If you think it's wrong and that's 'your opinion' you're welcome to that. I think you're wrong to be such a whiny little ******, though.


No one has ever said that we are entitled to an ETA. A lot of people have asked for it, but no one thinks they're entitled to it.

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Postby JacksonTown » Jun 22, 2015 01:08

No one has ever said that we are entitled to an ETA. A lot of people have asked for it, but no one thinks they're entitled to it.


You don't have to say "I'm entitled" to give off an entitled impression. It's not like people are politely and understandingly asking when the server might reopen. A lot of the asking tones are drizzled with frustration and demand.

Edit: In saying that I understand why people are frustrated, but it still doesn't warrant the entitlement. I don't want to tell people what to do, but I haven't had a hard time finding other things to keep me busy while waiting for the server to reopen so it will be a pleasant surprise and a bonus when it eventually does.
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Postby Fangrolmerc » Jun 23, 2015 03:20

The portal to the realms have not been opened. But I'm sure many of us are at the gates waiting. I see hundreds of people around me gather at the gate wishing for the day it will re-open once again...
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