CaptnIglo wrote:

Baman wrote:

devilsfury wrote: Putting up lvl 36 vs lvl 50s is just plain stupid

I want to know who is forcing you to go out into the frontier before you ding 50.

Have you guys forgotten that you do pve to get levels? Not RvR...

Being forced to grind the last 14 lvls before being able to do rvr again with a slightly fair chance after capping out of the last bg is rather off-putting tbh.

When did they put in the new bgs on live? It was after catacombs wasn't it? And even then the highest one was just 44.

I remember my first frontier kill on live was vs a level 40 hunter when I was level 40 on my armsman in snowdonia. If you want to rvr, just go somewhere besides emain.

Believe me, those leet 8mans are GLUED to emain. They won't leave no matter how dead it is there. Sometimes they even stay when relics are under attack.

I personally think that you encourage the most players by NOT restricting how they want to play. Fine limit BGs to a certain level and then force people to RvR in a way they may not want to. You WILL lose those players, on the other hand if you keep the bgs up to 49 you will keep the more casual gamers and people can still go out into RvR land and get slaughtered by players with way more time on their hands. Dark age unlike most modern MMO's is actually much more complex in its combat system which is good except that it takes longer to get good at the game. I got most of my skill in bgs and if I have to run around in RvR land because I can no longer go to bgs... well that is going to be very unfortunate. I do support the staff and their decisions its their server, I think everyone should be allowed to have their opinion and people that tell them to get out well I have done that in the past so I can't really say much except that once Uthgard 2 is back and all the decisions will have been made... people are going to have to live with those decisions and either play or not. For me even if there are things I would like done differently DAoC is still the best MMO out there.

I often think about my nostalgia for DAOC and wish I could go back to the days when I was 18 and could play 8 hours a day without responsibility or regret.

Alas, that will never happen any more, but it's still hard to let go. I played far too much BGs on live on on Uthgard 1.0 and I always wished I had just stuck with one toon on one server.

Despite BGs being seemingly perfect for someone like me I still think it's the right move to do what they are doing. I never thought it was a good idea to drastically divide the population and while that might work with 1000 players on all the time that won't happen.

If anything, think of it as a social experiment on whether the "casuals" will come out to the frontier or not play the server.

I'm looking forward to seeing the results and I hope it's a success.

TLDR: Short BGs good.

I have the solution!

Trishin wrote:3. What are the Battleground setups?

1. Abermenai - Levels 15-19 - Highest allowed realmrank: 1L2
2. Thidranki - Levels 20-24 - Highest allowed realmrank: 1L3
3. Murdaigean - Levels 25-29 - Highest allowed realmrank: 1L5
4. Caledonia - Levels 30-35 - Highest allowed realmrank: 1L9

◾Wilton (Level 36-40) 2L1
◾Molvik (Level 41-45) 2L3
◾Leirvik (Level 46-49) 2L5

This all comes from a poverty mentality which tries to make all players play one game and prevents people from playing the game they want.

1. No pots=nerf.
2. No rps when dead=nerf
3. No bgs=nerf
4. No group pom/da etc =nerf
5. Slow xp =nerf

Its a big ugly nerf stick patch level with no casual/new player friendliness.

Uthgard 1.0 had many choices until they were taken away and players left.
Uthgard 2.0 has many less choices.

Giant nerf bat on fun.

Relvinian u just seem like a really pessimistic person in general so i really doubt even if they did everything you said you would be happy , likely you would still find stuff to complain about.

I remember you spouting the death of Uthgard and championing the how awesome Origins/Genesis would be, and now you rail against the gms there as well. Not as much but you are still guilty of doing it. It just seems the people who dont post on these forums those are the real population because while they may get frustrated by 8v8 mentality they know they still have other avenues. your list of 1-5 above doesnt hinder RvR in anyway just presents some annoyances that made people lazy and as for #5 the staff has already stated multiple times they reworked XP, it wont be slow and xp on uth.1 was fine it was even faster than old school daoc. You really should play live tho i hear u get RPs just by logging in.

And as to being 1l9 and no bgs, 3l2 on a heavey/light tank gets u det5 in old RAs. so it doesnt take rr7+ just to get proper RAs like in NF

And on another Note as Ixtab has written about his story of starting here i did as well in 2010 i hadnt played daoc since 2001 and i rolled an infi first char cause i only wanted to solo. By the time the server went down i had rr4s,5s,6s,7s spread thru all the realms while taking months+ breaks during that time frame. Stop hating so much and be positive, hope for at least 1.5k population on launch with no crashes, no zone freezes. Just stop being such a negative nancy.

@Satiah : While genesis has SI(its pure ****** doesnt even work correct, mob encounters, loot..etc.) only a small small portion of their old RAs work and they arent even correct most are still NF RAs. I for one am very hopeful. Most of what people worry about when the population drops the RR gap will be so big, but there are always cycles of "elite" players taking breaks, new blood comes in or comes back and ups. It is how its always been. and it would be so long down the line. the world could be hit by a global killing comet by the time the pop drops enough to make the rr gap such an untenable situation, which with old RAs it never really will. No purge3, no sos,gtao,am,charge3...etc.etc.

Is it really that hard to understand that the last bg will end with 1L9 because it was that way at the patch level we are going for?
Stop these WOT's the staffs decision has been made.

Well, as I like heated debates, but some ppl should wash their mouths when telling ppl their point of view.
It ´s just fact that daoc has several kinds of different playertypes and everyone has the right to play the game as it meant to be for them.
If you take your time to read the posts here everyones opinion is right, because it ´s made of the point of view (playstyle) .

To tell people to F**k and play a different game or something like that is just the only stupid answers I see here, because Daoc is in need of every kind of players, dunno why some ppl don ´t realize that simple fact as they should realize that several different kind of players with different time / playstyles are playing this game, you can ´t say any kind of this players is the true one.

One question little offtopic from bg discussion... i think some1 here may know

Will be possible( or was possible on 1.0, cant remember) to double log on same account? In live ofc you cant because 1 sub = 1 person = 1 acc... you know money.. money is the problem!!

But here.. since is sub-free.. i dont see the problem of double log, see it more as feature

With all these changes people want, it would appear live is more suited for them?

Oswaldo wrote:With all these changes people want, it would appear live is more suited for them?

Too many cheaters on live , + many changes if you didnt play in years!

Mhenfhis wrote:One question little offtopic from bg discussion... i think some1 here may know

Will be possible( or was possible on 1.0, cant remember) to double log on same account? In live ofc you cant because 1 sub = 1 person = 1 acc... you know money.. money is the problem!!

But here.. since is sub-free.. i dont see the problem of double log, see it more as feature

When you say double log; do you mean dual logging yourself? Or do you mean two people logging onto the same account at the same time? In both instances unfortunately this will not be able to do this on Uthgard.

CaptnIglo wrote:Yes of course you did. But players who either dont have as much time to spend on this game like others or who will simply join Uthgard later WILL face the so called "elitists" in game. That's just a fact.

Did you read what I wrote? I joined the server in 2011 after years of being open and faced those "elitists" myself as a fresh 4L2... And WON.

CaptnIglo wrote:No, it's just easier to quit and play another game. Why should I go through this whole "Wax on wax off"-Mister-Miyagi-thing when I can simply play a game that doesnt require me to do this? Games are meant to be fun and not to teach you a lesson on how hard you have to work in order to achieve something in life.

Well, no. If you're not willing to put even the tiniest effort in what you do, even if it's just a videogame, will not take you anywhere. Do you have fun playing old Resident Evil? That game is filled with riddles and enigmas and stuff alike, I don't think it would be the same game without them... Don't you agree?

CaptnIglo wrote:While it is true that old RAs will soften the impact of high RR a bit through longer cooldowns it'll still make a big difference if you're lvl 36 1L9 or lvl 50 5L0. I fear that closing that gap will require too much time and dedication from casuals. I don't have as much time for playing as I had a few years ago so I'll think twice if I'll spend my spare time trying to pve grind from lvl 42 to 43 without a decent chance for rvr or just play another game that enables me to enjoy its full potential more easily.

I don't really understand, you're not going into Emain at level 36 anyway, that's called "suicide". You could have done that ten years ago when we all were new to the game and didn't really understand the mechanics of it (and even then you couldn't really go in Emain as a lvl36...)
If even leveling up your character is an issue to you, well, I don't know what else to tell you. You're clearly looking for an instant50 server, where you press a button to get level 50 + full capped template, ready to get into the frontier zone. That's not Uthgard nor it will ever be.

Infinitum wrote:

Mhenfhis wrote:One question little offtopic from bg discussion... i think some1 here may know

Will be possible( or was possible on 1.0, cant remember) to double log on same account? In live ofc you cant because 1 sub = 1 person = 1 acc... you know money.. money is the problem!!

But here.. since is sub-free.. i dont see the problem of double log, see it more as feature

When you say double log; do you mean dual logging yourself? Or do you mean two people logging onto the same account at the same time? In both instances unfortunately this will not be able to do this on Uthgard.

No no, two people logging on same account.
But anyway... think 3 accounts will resolve the problem.

No, one account = one client
Also you're not allowed to log in two accounts at the same time, you'll get banned for that (unless you're sharing your IP with other people and those people are playing on their own account)