duno why ppl think they can talk bs and make witty points and expect the uthgard team to stop what their doing and obay ur commands,

patch level goal has been decided

livelike goal has been decided

contribute or gtfo

relvinian wrote:"
Anyway relvinian buddy and your gang, why should the devs listen to your opinion?"

Actually the server ran with a higher patch level for about 9 years and then they self destructed and change patch level got rid of pots, gave rps for greys, and no rps while dead AND PLAYERS LEFT IN DROVES.

Why should they listen to me?

Because they worked 15 months on uthgard 2 and if they don't listen to their players they will FAIL.

This is what it will look like:

Big huge opening with lots of players.
6 months later ghost town.

When will you learn to quote people correctly on this forum? :s

Ah can i borrow that crystal ball of yours that can show the future?

Listen to their players.. those 5-7 people here who CLAIM they speak for everyone? give me a break...

As i said earlier, which i will state again, since its pretty obvious you cant read or you are just mentally challenged, this server has been here for over 10 years, which is outstanding for a freeshard, so i think the devs have a better idea about running a daoc freeshard.

Sure Uthgard will have some low population at some points, but thats because people get bored, they take a break and they come back again..

god help any server who listerns to all their players, apart from genesis ofc.... to late for them.

Skarz wrote:god help any server who listerns to all their players, apart from genesis ofc.... to late for them.

Atleast Genesis is alive, which I cannot say for Uthgard (for some time now). Atleast Genesis has SI, which Uthgard wont have. Currently Genesis's population is around 400-500 primetime. Which Uthgard didnt have once the BG's changed.

More personal attacks.

More if you don't like it get out.

More this is how it is, my way or the highway.

You want to know how I know the future? Because those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

If you don't learn you will repeat it. Dead server.

Satiah wrote:

Skarz wrote:god help any server who listerns to all their players, apart from genesis ofc.... to late for them.

Atleast Genesis is alive, which I cannot say for Uthgard (for some time now). Atleast Genesis has SI, which Uthgard wont have. Currently Genesis's population is around 400-500 primetime. Which Uthgard didnt have once the BG's changed.

ask the whole genesis population who likes genesis, ask them also why they play genesis, and feel free to ask them if they plan on playing uthgard 2.0

fyi atleast uthgard is mature / reliable / stable

relvinian wrote:More personal attacks.

More if you don't like it get out.

More this is how it is, my way or the highway.

You want to know how I know the future? Because those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

If you don't learn you will repeat it. Dead server.

think before u speak plz kid. be less biest and perhaps a little open minded. uthgards flaws were listerning to ppl like u so do us all a favour and shut the fk up

im bored... come at me bro

Skarz wrote:

Satiah wrote:

Skarz wrote:god help any server who listerns to all their players, apart from genesis ofc.... to late for them.

Atleast Genesis is alive, which I cannot say for Uthgard (for some time now). Atleast Genesis has SI, which Uthgard wont have. Currently Genesis's population is around 400-500 primetime. Which Uthgard didnt have once the BG's changed.

ask the whole genesis population who likes genesis, ask them also why they play genesis, and feel free to ask them if they plan on playing uthgard 2.0

fyi atleast uthgard is mature / reliable / stable

If you'd asked that same question 1 year and 3 month's ago, you would have gotten the same responce but the servers would be the other way around. But I guess some people only have short memories. Anyways, let's try and avoid that from happening again.

Skarz wrote:im bored... come at me bro

FITE ME! FITE ME IRL!

Suddenly all these forum warriors come out of the cracks again, with nothing to say. I take it Irc has been busy lately?

Oswaldo wrote:

CaptnIglo wrote:Too bad I guess that this will pretty much lead to my departure from uthgard. As a non pro, more casual oriented player I always enjoyed to have a chance to do fast paced rvr in pugs up until lvl 49 with other players who were well within my RA range. Being forced to square off against the many elite player groups as early as lvl 36 will most likely lead to me logging out after being steamrolled 3 times in a row without having the slightest chance to make the fights at least a bit exciting.

Removing later bgs in a game that doesnt have any other sort of matchmaking mechanism is a bad idea imho. I doubt I will have the patience to do only grind from 36 to 50.

Dont let the door hit you on the way out! Seriously... if theres a group owning you, run 2 groups? As a former member of a decent guild group we took no pleasure in running over a casual group, and we would welcome them to come with 2 fgs for a closer battle...

See, I play games to have fun. If the game mechanics requires me to grind the last 14 lvls and then I need to build a zerg first before I can stand a chance against elite players, I'll probably quit after a while and play another game. Matchmaking mechanisms have become very common so that pros and casuals can both have fun alike. Battlegrounds were such a matchmaking mechanism, and the most important ones are being taken away. If a game favors just elite players, casuals will stop playing. Same applies the other way around.

The question is:
Can an old game like Daoc cope with the impact of leaving casuals? If the answer is yes, then I sincerly wish you lots of fun on Uthgard. The server's made for players like you, less for players like me. But if the answer is no, then maybe you should rethink your "Don't let the door hit you"-attitude before the whole thing ends up with the same old "500 players max at prime time"-scenario.

Or to put it this way:
There's plenty other games for me to play, but will there be plenty of other Daoc players for you to rvr against?

Satiah wrote:

Skarz wrote:

Satiah wrote:Atleast Genesis is alive, which I cannot say for Uthgard (for some time now). Atleast Genesis has SI, which Uthgard wont have. Currently Genesis's population is around 400-500 primetime. Which Uthgard didnt have once the BG's changed.

ask the whole genesis population who likes genesis, ask them also why they play genesis, and feel free to ask them if they plan on playing uthgard 2.0

fyi atleast uthgard is mature / reliable / stable

If you'd asked that same question 1 year and 3 month's ago, you would have gotten the same responce but the servers would be the other way around. But I guess some people only have short memories. Anyways, let's try and avoid that from happening again.

ye u have a short memory... any other point ?

uthgard always made a step in the right direction at that time, but undoing custom changes no longer needed, not to mention long awaited bug fix's not available to all newer players but more abused by older players at some point ( no fault of them, was just the way things were ) mob A gives 1g, mob B gives 100g, everyones gonna kill mob b = results in a broken economy.

uthgard finaly reached the point where they have everything in order but the past damage was already done. they can only combat this by doing a complete wipe, everyone will now have the same chance's and oppertunitys with of no custom, we also got a patch level goal we can all now contribute if we choose to increase our livelike experience.

Whilst making this descision the staff also decided it was a good time to implement a much desired old ra system requested many times over the years by the uthgard community which is half the reason this revamp is taking so long.

and if u look to the left u see joined 2007, i do not recall lack of maturity in the staff descisions, never ever felt any sort of reliablity issues with server uptimes, and if i recall uthgard was always stable to the point of being playable.

and to anyone crying about the lack of SI on uthgard, keep crying....... plz........ im on blue's side here. its done when its done, and that means 100% working, none of this barely playable bs like genesis. uthgard team have announced a later release of this expansion PURELY so we can play sooner, im sure blue would have no problems keeping the server down untill hes ready / happy with the server status but hes not....... for us!

all this complaint about bgs ...
how about you guys start to think about a solution to make "big boyz" rvr more interessting for casuals ? (appart from gogo zerg wich is still a rly viable solution ...theres a reason 90% of live's rvr was zerging)

and i hated thid on uth for it splitting the allready small population into even smaller parts ... there has to be a part for everyone in real rvr instead of that fastfood ****** (did i hear matchmaking ? rofl srsly dafuq ? ) some ppl want to implement here and its the staffs as well as the communitys job to create these parts (by implementing mechanics wich support every playstyle and every skillvl and by actually using these mechanics like forming zergs(battlegrps) wich actually act as a zerg and not as 4 single grps wich do whatever they want)

solution ?? hello ?? no solutions from staff on this matter, daoc is a platform and players make the gameplay, solution is u my friend.