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Baman
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by Baman » Apr 01, 2015 16:24
newguy wrote:Baman wrote:Go back and read some more. We did answer your question and discussed the fact that buff classes are some of the strongest classes in the game and mythic introduced Charges and Potions for potential balance.
buff classes are strong at what? cetainly not dueling or soloing(<---watch, you will argue this)...except maybe a friar or warden....so tell me....would you be satisfied if only base buff potions were available and not specs?(<---and not answer this), na you gotta have it all right?
No offense, newguy, but who was your main on uthgard? 
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Austerim
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by Austerim » Apr 01, 2015 17:34
Skarz wrote:Beta release date April 10th - send your applications to TheSchaf on IRC couldnt find anything on forums about this yet, ive only seen it announced on irc, sharing is caring 

[3:10pm] <myrmidon^> You have to be a c*** to be awesome at daoc [3:10pm] <myrmidon^> that's what I learnt [3:11pm] <Frosty_> then why does austerim suck lordgriffon wrote:Oh by the way... ever seen a group of 8 smite clerics? Or play against a group like that? I have. Absolute devastation. The group that runs up against them can't kill them fast enough because smite clerics have sooooooo many tools at their disposal combined with decent ranged damage with 8 of them dudes doing it!
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relvinian
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by relvinian » Apr 01, 2015 17:38
Hopefully they can put test server up then. All i want to do is a little testing. OTOH, if they want a non butt buddy who can test things and point out what is not working they can use me.
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Dakkhon Black Blade
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by Dakkhon Black Blade » Apr 01, 2015 17:52
....again last time npc buffers and all is solved. Bandwidth is saved and fairness across the board. Ok that clears everything up launch away for the beta!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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Galandriel2
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by Galandriel2 » Apr 01, 2015 17:55
ok DAKKHON BLACK BLADE
   [12:46] <Roundhouse_> actualy galandriel and blackbeard the master challenges out on heavytanks [23:52] <Skarz> u are best skald i seen for long time
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RonELuvv
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by RonELuvv » Apr 01, 2015 21:17
newguy wrote:buff classes are strong at what? cetainly not dueling or soloing(<---watch, you will argue this)...except maybe a friar or warden....so tell me....would you be satisfied if only base buff potions were available and not specs?(<---and not answer this), na you gotta have it all right?
Warden, Friar, Hunter, Ranger, Druid/Cleric, Shaman, and even Bard are all tough if spec'd for solo. My guildy made a solo spec Druid and was very tough. I've seen Celteen and Nayeh both play a bard solo and do just fine. A warden/friar are some of the toughest solo classes out there. I personally played ranger/hunter and both did AWESOME in solo fights. I believe it would be easier for you to explain to me which self buff classes you think stink at soloing? Its all in how you spec and play. I'm actually a lil confused as to what exactly you are asking the GM's to do? They will not remove potions or charges. Why? Because they are in classic 1.65 settings. I hate to keep using that same reasoning, but its 100% true.
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svperstar
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by svperstar » Apr 01, 2015 22:28
-l- Edgtho -l- wrote:i would like a server without alchemist and spellcrafter... but uthgard got a patchlevel as straight goal and so i and everyone else here need to live with it.
in my opinion we need a real hardcore classic, the game we all entered once, and not the game we created over the years through QQ and lazyness.
This would be great. No SC server would be real old school, going back to important one time drops and such. I doubt it would go over well though with most people.
There will be a group of people out there who will want this realm to be entirely Mythic-like. Exactly like vanilla, drop rates/xp rates, basically everything and you will not be able to please them unless it is exactly like vanilla.
These people have their nostalgia goggles on so tight it's cutting off the bloodflow to their brain and they believe that vanilla was perfect and nothing was wrong with it.
 
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svperstar
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by svperstar » Apr 01, 2015 22:31
newguy wrote:buff classes are strong at what? cetainly not dueling or soloing(<---watch, you will argue this)...except maybe a friar or warden....so tell me....would you be satisfied if only base buff potions were available and not specs?(<---and not answer this), na you gotta have it all right?
I wouldn't mind at all if they scaled back buffs but saying buff classes can't solo leads me to believe you haven't spent much time in Emain on Uthgard.
There will be a group of people out there who will want this realm to be entirely Mythic-like. Exactly like vanilla, drop rates/xp rates, basically everything and you will not be able to please them unless it is exactly like vanilla.
These people have their nostalgia goggles on so tight it's cutting off the bloodflow to their brain and they believe that vanilla was perfect and nothing was wrong with it.
 
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Celteen
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by Celteen » Apr 01, 2015 23:39
relvinian wrote:Hopefully they can put test server up then. All i want to do is a little testing. OTOH, if they want a non butt buddy who can test things and point out what is not working they can use me.
Nice April Fool aeh hehe
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svperstar
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by svperstar » Apr 01, 2015 23:42
Celteen wrote:relvinian wrote:Hopefully they can put test server up then. All i want to do is a little testing. OTOH, if they want a non butt buddy who can test things and point out what is not working they can use me.
Nice April Fool aeh hehe
You know I just realized speaking of player testers i havent seen Nayeh post on here in like a year.
There will be a group of people out there who will want this realm to be entirely Mythic-like. Exactly like vanilla, drop rates/xp rates, basically everything and you will not be able to please them unless it is exactly like vanilla.
These people have their nostalgia goggles on so tight it's cutting off the bloodflow to their brain and they believe that vanilla was perfect and nothing was wrong with it.
 
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holsten-knight
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by holsten-knight » Apr 02, 2015 10:19
svperstar wrote:-l- Edgtho -l- wrote:i would like a server without alchemist and spellcrafter... but uthgard got a patchlevel as straight goal and so i and everyone else here need to live with it.
in my opinion we need a real hardcore classic, the game we all entered once, and not the game we created over the years through QQ and lazyness.
This would be great. No SC server would be real old school, going back to important one time drops and such. I doubt it would go over well though with most people.
No SC would indeed make pve and farming boss encounters (dragon etc.) worthwhile again... and not everyone being perfect equiped would also make rvr more interesting IMO. On the other hand it would make the pve grind to be good equiped a LOT longer. Hm, I think I would like a no SC and alchi setting, we could get rid of all the buffpots and charge discussion as well. But I think its not gonna happen here.
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Oswaldo
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by Oswaldo » Apr 02, 2015 10:45
holsten-knight wrote:svperstar wrote:-l- Edgtho -l- wrote:i would like a server without alchemist and spellcrafter... but uthgard got a patchlevel as straight goal and so i and everyone else here need to live with it.
in my opinion we need a real hardcore classic, the game we all entered once, and not the game we created over the years through QQ and lazyness.
This would be great. No SC server would be real old school, going back to important one time drops and such. I doubt it would go over well though with most people.
No SC would indeed make pve and farming boss encounters (dragon etc.) worthwhile again... and not everyone being perfect equiped would also make rvr more interesting IMO. On the other hand it would make the pve grind to be good equiped a LOT longer. Hm, I think I would like a no SC and alchi setting, we could get rid of all the buffpots and charge discussion as well. But I think its not gonna happen here.
As good as all this sounds, first of all the patch aim is 1.65, where we have sc and alchemy... and without those it'll be a ****** for people to get decent equipment for rvr.... I remember how it was pre spellcraft, and let me tell you, its not fun having crap resists when you fight some caster ;o
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Buzzkill
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by Buzzkill » Apr 02, 2015 11:49
Oswaldo wrote: As good as all this sounds, first of all the patch aim is 1.65, where we have sc and alchemy... and without those it'll be a ****** for people to get decent equipment for rvr.... I remember how it was pre spellcraft, and let me tell you, its not fun having crap resists when you fight some caster ;o
Not arguing for or against....but... Epic armor quests, DF diamond items, and end game raids  You can get a pretty decent template with those items. It does encourage more endgame PvE (so does farming hulks for diamonds for cash to purchase a template I guess?) ...and yeah fighting a caster with low resists isn't fun, but the same can be said against a melee. DAoC has always had a power teeter-totter between tanks and casters. I wouldn't mind not having to worry about SC'ing, but I don't care either way.
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Razzer
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by Razzer » Apr 02, 2015 17:58
The good old times where you wore your epic armor with pride! 
Uthgard till 2003!
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Chrissi
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by Chrissi » Apr 02, 2015 18:24
Razzer wrote:The good old times where you wore your epic armor with pride! 
this!
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