Do animists still blow you up through walls?!

Seksy wrote:It's not even the fact that there's no PVE, but that Certain things which made DAoC great are being questioned. CU is just a roller coaster ride everyone's on just waiting to crash at the end. I see so many things that where promised in Warhammer that are being discussed in CU. The simple fact that CC is questioned when your talking about large XvsX fights is retarded. These are all people who have been influenced by Warhammer, GW's, and ESO.... We all know those games bring nothing about what we love in DAoC. MJ was not the brains in DAoCs creation, for this reason my expectations are pretty low....

I agree on the fact that is kinda stupid argue about the utility of CCs on a RvR game (which should be obvious..), but "people" aren't the ones who will decide nor vote about those gameplay things.. even if anyone kinda think that could do it.

I guess that if you checked their forums, you probably saw my thread about Mez, and almost everyone that is against it (or CCs) usually doesn't bring much concrete arguments than "i don't want to stand still doing nothing for 2 minutes" which everyone know that its not the point of CCs and actually it has never been neither a matter of minutes (usually not more than 40sec) on DAoC due to the many factors which reduce all CC durations (resist, RAs, AE ranges, etc) and not even counting on all perks/abilities to avoid/cure them, so i guess that the CU Staff will be smart enough to understand how "small-minded" these people are on the RvR context, thus end up ignoring them/giving them some good motivation to keep hard CCs.

@Uth2.0: There will be again the teleport from the border keep to the Ninjable Keep like last days of Uth 1.0? (Eras/Nott/Crim - or maybe Beno/Bled/Crau)

ty, hope see Uthgard 2.0 up soon

@Austerim
your gif's are "EPIC"

@Caemma & Co.
the days of hard cc's and small men ganking/roaming grp's (solo too) are end ...
new on-line mmo players don't like it, every new game is the same:
"a massive zerg going over another massive zerg pressing 2/3 buttons (utimate/elite & bla bla bla)"

for exemple GW2 and TESO, seem to me the exact same thing on the pvp/wvw/rvr aspect ...

and about pve, instanced doungeons to farm over and over all day long ...

every game is the same, i'am not trying nothing new anymore

will w8 for Uthgard 2.0 and continue play Minecraft or some cool Xbox while w8ing

cya soon (i hope)
realac0

savage will be limited by 5.5 speed weapon ?

Thank you for the news. Was along the lines of what I expected, and I am personally glad you are skipping a few time-consuming development bits and pieces in order to move to a launch date before we grow old and die.

I still want to emphasize that I think you should just launch, especially if you are intending to launch a beta. In a beta you would be allowed to mess with the server constantly anyways.

Other than that, I hope that you do not wipe the database for the beta launch - I would like to see my chars again and play around with them on old RA's in the beta

Do your best, that is all we can hope for.

Thanks again.

Ps. opentheserverkthx

realac0 wrote:@Caemma & Co.
the days of hard cc's and small men ganking/roaming grp's (solo too) are end ...
new on-line mmo players don't like it, every new game is the same:
"a massive zerg going over another massive zerg pressing 2/3 buttons (utimate/elite & bla bla bla)"

Yeh this is a shame, many of the players over there seem to want easy, instant access flexible group size grouping, little to no CC, structure sieges with PvDoor that last days - basically perma zerg warfare where bringing more numbers is more or less guaranteed to win any combat, all for the sake of the 'MMO' terminology. Honestly this is where DAoC got it right for me, with smaller guilds and groups that form alliances and cooperate on occasion for the large scale events, instead of massive 'gaming community' guilds that bring hundreds of players to be able to do absolutely everything themselves, give themselves a bunch of 'awards', then move on to the next MMO. The topics on socialization, sieges and CC are the reason I'm reluctant to fork out $ for alpha.

-Nugusta

Funny is Uthgard was shut down specifically so the mods could work on SI, and now bringing it back without SI. Interesting.

SirWaitALot wrote:What about the RA "See Hidden" on Uthgard? Will it be the very first version where assassins could see stealthed archers and minstrels at clipping range?
(Please not)

This has been asked repeatedly since at least 2013 when the mods first announced Old RA. I am curious as well. I spent hours of my time back then scouring google and in the See Hidden thread posted the old equation they used post See Hidden Nerf which equaled I think 900 units for a level 50 spotting a level 50.

Halysia wrote:basically perma zerg warfare where bringing more numbers is more or less guaranteed to win any combat, all for the sake of the 'MMO' terminology. Honestly this is where DAoC got it right for me, with smaller guilds and groups that form alliances and cooperate on occasion for the large scale events, instead of massive 'gaming community' guilds that bring hundreds of players to be able to do absolutely everything themselves, give themselves a bunch of 'awards', then move on to the next MMO.

I don't know what server you played on back on live but "perma zerg warfare" is exactly what Merlin was. Mid ran things because they had the numbers. Conquest/Combine were seen as the main "elite" guilds there and they would roll over you with 5+ full groups when Albion could field maybe 2-3 tops, then go on the VN boards and go on and on and on about how elite and amazing they were.

So I am curious what server you played on near launch.

I played EU Excalibur. Sure there were unorganized zerg guilds still but I'd say the majority of guilds quickly focused on FG warfare and came together for Relic Raids. In many MMOs these days you get large 'hardcore' gaming communities come to games with hundreds of players and claim accolades for themselves and simply dominate through sheer numbers and can do all these large scale events by themselves. I never experienced that myself, or atleast as much, in older MMOs. At least with DAoC you had mezz to better be able to deal with the larger groups of players - on the CU boards many vocal players want to get rid of any CC that lasts more than 10-20 seconds.

-YES
-No
-MAYBE
-Dunno
-is possible
-LOOL NO
-between 2017 and 2039
-is done when we want
-don't care
-yes

svperstar wrote:

Halysia wrote:basically perma zerg warfare where bringing more numbers is more or less guaranteed to win any combat, all for the sake of the 'MMO' terminology. Honestly this is where DAoC got it right for me, with smaller guilds and groups that form alliances and cooperate on occasion for the large scale events, instead of massive 'gaming community' guilds that bring hundreds of players to be able to do absolutely everything themselves, give themselves a bunch of 'awards', then move on to the next MMO.

I don't know what server you played on back on live but "perma zerg warfare" is exactly what Merlin was. Mid ran things because they had the numbers. Conquest/Combine were seen as the main "elite" guilds there and they would roll over you with 5+ full groups when Albion could field maybe 2-3 tops, then go on the VN boards and go on and on and on about how elite and amazing they were.

So I am curious what server you played on near launch.

Spoken like a true random.. there was actually ALOT of 8v8 on merlin, ofc zergs happend coz the population was 3000+ at some points.
Had 8v8 guilds like The Guardians, MIRA, QQ, Angri Elves, The dark Arcane etc.. even Lagged Again moved there on hib and run a 8 man group.

Oswaldo wrote:

svperstar wrote:...

Spoken like a true random.. there was actually ALOT of 8v8 on merlin, ofc zergs happend coz the population was 3000+ at some points.
Had 8v8 guilds like The Guardians, MIRA, QQ, Angri Elves, The dark Arcane etc.. even Lagged Again moved there on hib and run a 8 man group.

Spoken like a true nerd..

The problem with CU is how many people are against things "like CC" which make RvR skill based and not just a numbers game.

@Uthgard Staff, It's refreshing to see the forums alive with members of Uthgard staff replying frequently, it gives me the feeling Uthgard will be up soon.

Did anyone see the new episode of Vikings?... They spoke about Uthgard .

Oswaldo wrote:Spoken like a true random.. there was actually ALOT of 8v8 on merlin, ofc zergs happend coz the population was 3000+ at some points.
Had 8v8 guilds like The Guardians, MIRA, QQ, Angri Elves, The dark Arcane etc.. even Lagged Again moved there on hib and run a 8 man group.

I was not a random, I was guilded the entire time I played back in Dec 2001-Jan 2003 when I cancelled my DAOC subscription.

Was one of the first 50s in my first guild so I changed guilds to one with more 50s, called Divine. We spent countless hours in Emain. The zerging wasn't a rare thing, emain was a constant, ceaseless, endless zerg. It would die down after 11 pm on weekdays but even then since Mid had the numbers they would still outnumber you. You fielded ONE 8 man? Well mid would field 3, zerg you down, /emote your dead body, take screenshots, post them to VNboards, and brag about how elite they were and how they "ran the server"

Got so bad I knew alb guilds that deleted their toons and rerolled midgard to be on the winning team.

Cruell the GM of M.Y.T.H. was big on mid merlin at the time even he admits it was like this.

This is the main reason I went stealth only and completely avoided visi RvR before I quit. If after January 2003 there was a nice 8 man scene I will take your word for it because I had cancelled my account at that point.

svperstar wrote:

Oswaldo wrote:Spoken like a true random.. there was actually ALOT of 8v8 on merlin, ofc zergs happend coz the population was 3000+ at some points.
Had 8v8 guilds like The Guardians, MIRA, QQ, Angri Elves, The dark Arcane etc.. even Lagged Again moved there on hib and run a 8 man group.

I was not a random, I was guilded the entire time I played back in Dec 2001-Jan 2003 when I cancelled my DAOC subscription.

Was one of the first 50s in my first guild so I changed guilds to one with more 50s, called Divine. We spent countless hours in Emain. The zerging wasn't a rare thing, emain was a constant, ceaseless, endless zerg. It would die down after 11 pm on weekdays but even then since Mid had the numbers they would still outnumber you. You fielded ONE 8 man? Well mid would field 3, zerg you down, /emote your dead body, take screenshots, post them to VNboards, and brag about how elite they were and how they "ran the server"

Got so bad I knew alb guilds that deleted their toons and rerolled midgard to be on the winning team.

Cruell the GM of M.Y.T.H. was big on mid merlin at the time even he admits it was like this.

This is the main reason I went stealth only and completely avoided visi RvR before I quit. If after January 2003 there was a nice 8 man scene I will take your word for it because I had cancelled my account at that point.

Divine? No wonder you only encountered zergs, there was plenty of 8v8 on Merlin, you havent done it is most likely because of the guild you were a part of. Drutt was only one of the gms and what i remember best was the +1hour teamspeak recording of him going crazy :p haha

And galandriel, still spamming those dds after snaring? mad skills bro! Hearing drachengarde is doing so well on Genesis!