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Alphaone
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Postby Alphaone » Dec 06, 2014 02:45

The reality is, Blue controls the keys to the Kingdom, so when he says it is ready, none of this will matter. No one begging, bartering, or berating will open it any sooner. No one in their right mind would pay for what it would take to replicate what Blue & Co. already have in their back-pocket code wise. It would be insane (and virtually impoosible) to try and recreate what has taken place over the past 10 years since Uthgard (formerly named CamelotServer I believe) in testing, coding and development. I can't do it, and I am thinking no one else on here can either (unless you are a hacker and steal it somehow).

This is why Origins/Genesis/Lologins is failing - they are new, they haven't spent years working out the bugs, and people are getting sick of it quickly (disclaimer: I don't play Origins, but big ups to the Dev's who are trying to make it work). What is the one difference though between what Blue has, and what Origins is trying to do? Anyone? Anyone? Yes, Aust, that is correct, UTH STARTED 10 YEARS AGO. And we have/had the privilege of playing on a server, as buggy as it might have been at one time, that was able to test, document, reference and whatever else....during the peak and immediately post-peak years of DAOC. Now it is 2014...soon to be 2015. Blue's code is like a freakin' relic itself; I get why he protects it so hard. It has been almost a decade of effort that probably (and I am not exaggerating here) hundreds of thousands of hours have gone in to developing, sometimes with a plan, and sometimes by trial and error. But always, with the intent that whomever tested, coded, developed, and debugged all of it....we all loved this game, for all of our reasons personal to us....and we just hope to see it last a little bit longer.

So I do hope that if/when Blue hangs up his hat, he and/or the other GM's can pass that code along to people who will do justice to what DAOC has/is/and will be. But for now, I have great hope that while slow....things are happening, and we just have to wait and rejoice when we all can reunite on Uthgard for one, maybe last, great run of the classic DAOC we all loved and cherished so much.

I don't have time to edit this post, so I will just say LLU2.0, and Thank You, as always, to All who have helped in this majestic project.

Apha

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Postby hakkiha » Dec 06, 2014 02:51

kildich wrote:I have more likes than you.... so um yeah.


Hahaha :D I am impressed... :rolleyes:

You poor thing, have you already run out of insults or is that really the best you can do? :gaga:

But hey: at least I can show you I really AM better than you ever will be, this is the last response you get from me - you will be ignored from now to eternity and I sure recommend the same for everybody else.

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Postby kildich » Dec 06, 2014 03:31

hakkiha wrote:
kildich wrote:I have more likes than you.... so um yeah.


Hahaha :D I am impressed... :rolleyes:

You poor thing, have you already run out of insults or is that really the best you can do? :gaga:

But hey: at least I can show you I really AM better than you ever will be, this is the last response you get from me - you will be ignored from now to eternity and I sure recommend the same for everybody else.


Wow your better than me because you think your getting the last word? Oh and I have yet to begin to hurl insults at your stupid ass. I was going to leave it alone but you just had to continue your stupidity. I hope you A stop posting your stupid ******. B get a life and stop annoying me on these forums and C I am guessing that since you have no life that getting a significant other (whatever gender you choose) is probably out of the question but I will pray for someone with the same IQ as you IE 0 for you to find.

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Postby hakkiha » Dec 06, 2014 03:53

kildich wrote:meaningless whimpering and utterly effortless insult-try-outs


Ok, I take the bait - I actually am waiting for you to REALLY start insulting? Your provocation is easy enough but you insulting me... Heh, dude c'mon, put in some effort there as I am still waiting for your serious insults that'd REALLY hurt my feelings? Or maybe YOUR iq isn't enough? C'mon big boy, grow some balls finally and SHOOT!!! :D
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Postby kildich » Dec 06, 2014 07:27

hakkiha wrote:
kildich wrote:meaningless whimpering and utterly effortless insult-try-outs


Ok, I take the bait - I actually am waiting for you to REALLY start insulting? Your provocation is easy enough but you insulting me... Heh, dude c'mon, put in some effort there as I am still waiting for your serious insults that'd REALLY hurt my feelings? Or maybe YOUR iq isn't enough? C'mon big boy, grow some balls finally and SHOOT!!! :D


Nah, you know what? I am going to be the better person. We could go round and round insulting each other and trust me I know how. Sometimes I have fun with it, but this is just getting old. You and your friends on the forum will continue to whine and complain about the server not being up. I am not even going to bother looking at the post anymore. The only thing I will do is look at the server status. Because really, that is all I care about. You and your friends have wasted enough of my valuable time and you don't get anymore.

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Postby Jerrian » Dec 06, 2014 12:27

Alphaone wrote:The reality is, Blue controls the keys to the Kingdom, so when he says it is ready, none of this will matter. No one begging, bartering, or berating will open it any sooner. No one in their right mind would pay for what it would take to replicate what Blue & Co. already have in their back-pocket code wise. It would be insane (and virtually impoosible) to try and recreate what has taken place over the past 10 years since Uthgard (formerly named CamelotServer I believe) in testing, coding and development. I can't do it, and I am thinking no one else on here can either (unless you are a hacker and steal it somehow).

This is why Origins/Genesis/Lologins is failing - they are new, they haven't spent years working out the bugs, and people are getting sick of it quickly (disclaimer: I don't play Origins, but big ups to the Dev's who are trying to make it work). What is the one difference though between what Blue has, and what Origins is trying to do? Anyone? Anyone? Yes, Aust, that is correct, UTH STARTED 10 YEARS AGO. And we have/had the privilege of playing on a server, as buggy as it might have been at one time, that was able to test, document, reference and whatever else....during the peak and immediately post-peak years of DAOC. Now it is 2014...soon to be 2015. Blue's code is like a freakin' relic itself; I get why he protects it so hard. It has been almost a decade of effort that probably (and I am not exaggerating here) hundreds of thousands of hours have gone in to developing, sometimes with a plan, and sometimes by trial and error. But always, with the intent that whomever tested, coded, developed, and debugged all of it....we all loved this game, for all of our reasons personal to us....and we just hope to see it last a little bit longer.

So I do hope that if/when Blue hangs up his hat, he and/or the other GM's can pass that code along to people who will do justice to what DAOC has/is/and will be. But for now, I have great hope that while slow....things are happening, and we just have to wait and rejoice when we all can reunite on Uthgard for one, maybe last, great run of the classic DAOC we all loved and cherished so much.

I don't have time to edit this post, so I will just say LLU2.0, and Thank You, as always, to All who have helped in this majestic project.

Apha


You Sir, would be a decent president ,-). 100% agreement to that post.

Lovemebaby wrote:I cant afford to launch a cityscape type of project. And with the Camelot unchained situation, I don't think a kickstarter for a modernized classic daoc server would attract much attention


I think it ´s a cool idea that there are concepts to start daoc classic servers as well to keep the nostalgia alive. Nobody knows about the future of Uthgard and I would be very upset if Blue would ever pronounce he will shut down Uthgard forever, what a terrible thought. :| So you can´t appreciate staffs work enough that gave us already a long period of that game we love so much and I hope they don ´t ever lose their motivation to it .

As I said already the game code is a mess, therefore staff needs much time to get it in a good shape, that ´s a pitty but can ´t be helped. A main problem is that our staff is only a small team so they have to put much time and work into it spread to only few shoulders. They all have jobs, RL , family as well etc. but it makes less sense to get many new ppl on board, you see the chaos at Genesis pp join staff people leave, everybody is coding and nobody knows exactly what he is doing.

If you start a big side project , new daoc server and so on, I ´m pretty sure you ´ll get the attention of EA and they will hit you hard with copyright issues as well. To be honest servers like Uthgard and Genesis are forbidden but luckily tolerated by EA as long they don ´t focus too much attention.
But they know about these servers, Origins had to rename their server to Genesis cause EA said Daoc Origins is a registered trademark and if they use that name they will go to judge. If you really start a project like this, you have to be carefully with these copyright law things, cease-and-desist orders can get quite expensive. When you have programmers on board who even does ´t know the classic daoc, you will get into trouble too because so much knowledge is lost, you see the problems here to research old data and formulas, you ´ll need one year or more to even get a noticeable result and it will be probably still poor compared even to Genesis.

In my opinion it would be the best thing to help blue and staff if possible. With money they could probably spend more time in the Uthgard work, hmm, just a thought. :oops: - Reopen donate button please ,-)

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Postby Celteen » Dec 06, 2014 13:05

kildich wrote:I am not even going to bother looking at the post anymore. The only thing I will do is look at the server status. Because really, that is all I care about. You and your friends have wasted enough of my valuable time and you don't get anymore.

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Postby Pao » Dec 07, 2014 02:04

That reminds me of all that fun I had in Latin America :D
Hope GMs are fine with what they have stated, that they are fine with just 80 people (300ppl was Trishin Statement long time ago) playing the game under their vision.
Its important to leave this server running doesn't matter how low the numbers will be. The other servers can fail but Uthgard still will be there, thats Uthgards only chance.

Edit 19/09/21: Well Uthgards chance has come.

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Postby linwig » Dec 07, 2014 04:27

All this server talk....any news on the upcoming 2015 Kitchen range?

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Postby Dubior » Dec 07, 2014 19:28

linwig wrote:All this server talk....any news on the upcoming 2015 Kitchen range?




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Postby Baman » Dec 07, 2014 20:33

You know how happy they could make us with just an ETA?

It doesn't even have to be real: you can just pull a date out of your ass and change it later, but it would at least keep us satiated for a while.
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Postby Miiyomo » Dec 08, 2014 13:41

Baman wrote:You know how happy they could make us with just an ETA?

It doesn't even have to be real: you can just pull a date out of your ass and change it later, but it would at least keep us satiated for a while.



well... you are never in IRC they're talking about 11 January since a while as an "interim launch date" :wink:
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Postby CaptnIglo » Dec 08, 2014 14:03

Miiyomo wrote:
Baman wrote:You know how happy they could make us with just an ETA?

It doesn't even have to be real: you can just pull a date out of your ass and change it later, but it would at least keep us satiated for a while.



well... you are never in IRC they're talking about 11 January since a while as an "interim launch date" :wink:

Seriously?! 8O

Well if relaunch is that close at hand (I honestly was expecting it to be many month away) I'll stop lvling on the other server right away.
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Postby Gull » Dec 08, 2014 14:57

CaptnIglo wrote:
Miiyomo wrote:
Baman wrote:You know how happy they could make us with just an ETA?

It doesn't even have to be real: you can just pull a date out of your ass and change it later, but it would at least keep us satiated for a while.



well... you are never in IRC they're talking about 11 January since a while as an "interim launch date" :wink:

Seriously?! 8O

Well if relaunch is that close at hand (I honestly was expecting it to be many month away) I'll stop lvling on the other server right away.


doublecheck the post again.

they didn´t mention which year :lol:
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Postby Jerrian » Dec 08, 2014 15:24

Miiyomo wrote:
Baman wrote:You know how happy they could make us with just an ETA?

It doesn't even have to be real: you can just pull a date out of your ass and change it later, but it would at least keep us satiated for a while.



well... you are never in IRC they're talking about 11 January since a while as an "interim launch date" :wink:


I only believe it when I see it :-) .Well, communication is not the biggest skill of the staff but when the final release would be really that close I suppose they had anounced that in the news. I expect march 2015 as final release date but I don ´t have infos it ´s just a guess :wink: .But if January would be the date that would be cool 8) , really missing to play daoc.

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