Genesis has really shown me how awful old ra's with old patches are. Tanks, especially Mid, will for the most part steamroll everything and casters will be rather bad. With debuffs nerfed in 1.65 but tanks still having Avoidance of Magic I am not sure how caster groups will be viable.

It doesn't help that Savages are dual wield on Genesis when they aren't supposed to be.

I don't play Genesis, so I can't really tell the differences, but casters should be all right on Uth 2.0, if your own tanks are good at snaring, which should not be too hard with OP prevent flight and working snare mechanics.

Im bloody permasnared, stunned mezzed at Uth.....when facing a good caster grp, they rock. (Im mid)

Main thing I was wondering about is the caster dps with the debuff change in 1.65, rr6 enchanter on genesis doing 300 damage with a debuff nuke seemed really terrible. So will caster groups be viable here with 1.65?

specter424 wrote:Main thing I was wondering about is the caster dps with the debuff change in 1.65, rr6 enchanter on genesis doing 300 damage with a debuff nuke seemed really terrible. So will caster groups be viable here with 1.65?

300 seems to be way too low. Even on sorc I'm nuking for around 350-400 after red debuff (with the 45 lifetap) on genesis ... and well some darkcarver hit me for even ~600 dmg (given that we don't run cold resist buff on alb). So caster dmg seems to be fine there and will also be fine here

It was two days ago when they changed the way the debuffs worked with resists, apparently it stopped working double against resist buffed targets like it did in 1.65 which is why I am wondering.

Having decent CC Usa, as you can't RA dump your way to victory as easily. Then call it strategy xD.

Group coordination will matter a lot more. Knowing your role, and playing your role, then adapting to whatever the situation requires. AKA TEAMPLAY.

An example: uthgard 1.0 the majority of mercs had a very static game-style. No versatility.
They expected the theurgist to do interrupts, the pally to slam/snare.

Even if they stood next to a free druid, and stuck on a target not dying, they
would persist in trying to be a wannabe zerk. Why?

The only pure DPS class in Albion is Fire wizard, and if they fixed them, they should
be viable now. FW requires 3 things though: you're FPS fast, able to pick good targets,
and that you got excellent positioning.


As for mids, if they don't start running a decent supp rm, they'll struggle. I haven't seen
one since Zubasa, and he was still kinda slow.

I'll be back b4 or after the WC, we'll see. If I'm not back after the WC, I'm probably dead haha.
Vá Brasil!

Infamous wrote:Having decent CC Usa, as you can't RA dump your way to victory as easily. Then call it strategy xD.

Group coordination will matter a lot more. ...

So you probably never ran with or against the guild grps in albion. Shintari, Veritaas, Sausagefingerz are great examples of mercs, who actually did various things and who used their utilitiy.
Gotta agree that there was a lack of proper runemasters on uth 1.0 . Zubasa made a very dissappointing "comeback" and i can't understand why he was hyped by so many peoples as best rm/caster. Noisiv + Zai on his runemasters were the best for sure.

Byun wrote:

Infamous wrote:Having decent CC Usa, as you can't RA dump your way to victory as easily. Then call it strategy xD.

Group coordination will matter a lot more. ...

So you probably never ran with or against the guild grps in albion. Shintari, Veritaas, Sausagefingerz are great examples of mercs, who actually did various things and who used their utilitiy.
Gotta agree that there was a lack of proper runemasters on uth 1.0 . Zubasa made a very dissappointing "comeback" and i can't understand why he was hyped by so many peoples as best rm/caster. Noisiv + Zai on his runemasters were the best for sure.

Zubasa probably got old, it happens. Zai ain't bad, but I'm faster.

As for the mercs, I've played with most of them on USA , and those you listed too. I can list their strengths and weakness as well.

Like if you combined how you play pally, with merc, and picking WHEN to do what, it would be perfect. But your whole mentality switches when you play a merc, and you get frag horny xD.

Also, this server had a few mercs who tried to do the right thing, but the problem is: you need 2. sorc+cabby is a team within the team. merc+merc is a team within a team. You need synchronization.

zubasa? not hard to be the best runemaster on a server with 50 ppl

In Dragonball Z they also need synchronization for Fusion

yes comparing numbers on genesis seems legit. well researched should be close to old live like.

Galandriel2 wrote:zubasa? not hard to be the best runemaster on a server with 50 ppl

and that from a Sword Skald xD ok!

Usa.. just no. And running supp runemaster... just no again.