I just want to shout out a big THANK YOU to Blue (and all other People involved) for their work in the past and the future. Im very exited about Uthgard 2.0!

@all
How about stop complaining, and being happy that there is at least 1 serious and stable FREEshard where we can celebrate the game of our life?

Greetings,
Arzt

Salidor wrote:

Harkon wrote:

Nayru wrote:
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After internal discussion and gathering information from players, we have decided to set 1.65 as our stated patch goal opposed to 1.69 before. This was the last patch before ToA hit live servers and is seen by us as the most consistent state of the game we could bring. Our vision for the server remains, "provide a classic experience of Dark Age of Camelot that represents the state of the game in 2003".
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Warm regards,
Your Uthgard Staff.

I had hope that uthgard changes are made with brain, now that you have a few new gms.
I was foolish to think so again... nothing changed, there still seems to be no one in the staff who actually knows what the rvr community wants nor one that actually did a huge amount of rvr during that time on live.
Removing buffshears in rvr is the dumbest decision you made so far. 1.65 was NOT! what the community saw as most balanced patch for old ras!
Welcome back no brain assist train. Welcome back that no one wants to play druid/shaman/cleric ... especially cleric, turn on bof and go afk till the fight is over because there wont be much to do for you in most fights.

I dont know why you guys are so learning resistend - making pvm or in this case pvp more boring for most of the group members will result in less people playing /doing pvp. Especially when you cut the main supporters, who are needed in every group, less people will want to play them > less groups will run after the initial hype and more and more groups will disappear because waiting in the boarder keep for support classes will be as boring as it was 2003 on live. This is just simple logic and the experience from live during that time.
Come on, don't do that crap, show that you have learned at least something.

If you read the GMs post you would see one reason why they did 1.65 was to help the Casual player. (and thats 90% of the server?)
i think they are using their "brain" if you help keep the casual player here its better for the server!

and also they did state that once they launch that they will be working with the community to help with any "changes" that might/need happen.

in stead of slamming them down, why don't you attempt to build them up.
stating i disagree instead of calling some one stupid is a big difference.

And another one who has either no clue about the setting and has never done grp rvr at that time on live or cant use simple human logic.
The "casual" player who does 90% of the time pvm or zerg cares in no way about buff shears. Mobs cant be sheared and in zerg vs zerg buffshears have less to no influence. So this change affects mostly grp rvr players - and i dont mean only set or guild groups, random pugs will suffer much much harder because of that. Again, i have a coordinated rvr guild i dont care that much, we will find people to play those classes for us - there are enough winning team joiner out there, have always been. But i can for sure remind the "good old times" in 2003 - hundreds of players in front of the boarder keeps spamming grp lf druid/cleric/shaman. You know why? because it was f.ucking boring to play them in rvr, either u were cc'ed and couldnt heal or your grp members simply insta died because of unshearable assisttrains and no bof pd what ever.
Dont get me wrong, im for old ras too, they were much more casual friendly because of the long timers - but if you take away 50-80% of the casts (utility) a class uses in rvr it makes much less fun to play this class. Less supporters, means more downtime because of searching, means less action, means more people log out and often enough not back again in next day, means less people in rvr - u get the point where this leads to? i mean its not 1 style or spell what changes here, its the majority of the casts a good druid/shaman/cleric makes in a fight with shearing/buffing.

What you say makes sense, Harkon. However, based on my relatively limited experience to some of the established players, I do see a sub-population of peeps who enjoy the support classes, and will probably re-roll them even if it is more boring without buff shears. I also would expect that perhaps a number of players will roll both an offensive and defensive char, simply to be more versatile in rvr for forming strong groups. I myself have much more satisfaction kiting and keeping attacks chars up with timely heals and such. I think it is a personality thing at the root. The symbiotic relationship between a "push" char and a support char is profound, and I simply have the mindset of helping, not necessarily defeating an opponent. Hopefully with the reduced population of people who return to Uth, in regards to DAOC's heyday of 2003, we will see a relatively even distribution of support and attack chars.

From my Hib perspective, Bard will still be an insanely challenging class as support, simply given the plethora of functions they have perform in seconds upon INC. Not sure I will ever become an elite bard....so much pressure.

My two cents, hope to see Uth up soon. ^^

Alpha

you missed my point...

the moment you start attacking some one, instead of trying to give good feed back, and not being rude: you lose.

offer your points let people see it, then later when troubles come down because of a "Bad" decision made they can see your post and fall back on that. but if your post was rude they will just ignore it.

I've worked with a few people in your guild... and the people i did work with Always gave me good Feed back on how to get better to improve my play styles... what if they didn't and just called me a Dumb A$$? and never teamed up with me again? would be another one less hib in RvR.... and if you times that by 100 and more, you start losing the server.

one of the GMS goals is to get people out in RvR so that it is just not our realms elites out there, but every one and there play styles.

Koleriker wrote:Just have a look at page 1 and you will find the answer to your 1. Question...

page one does not answer this

as soon as you start to balance(gameplay mechanics) for the button instead of the top the game starts to get trivial/boring
but thats what seems to happen with taking away shears from supports ... and i rly cant see any situation where this would enhance the gameplay

Is there any chance out of all this effort (Thanks!) that trebuchets or catapults might come back at some point? I sure miss those long range sieges.

solchitlins wrote:

Yes please, Genesis blows!

Nayru already said there's still a lot of stuff that needs to be done so it won't be up anytime soon, especially not by the weekend.

Guys honestly let them do their work. Lol. Who honestly cares how long it takes. Genesis blows arangatang balls. So as we all know Uthgard WILL be up eventually. For the mean time lets just sit back, wait patiently, bite our nails and let them do their magics. )

..and play Diablo3 while we wait .

Curou wrote:Yes please, Genesis blows!

Genesis reborn ! No reboot for 3 days, no more frozen bugged, no more no-respawn state. It's still not the quality of Uthgard

Cant you just stop spam the uthgard forum with genesis stuff? If you want to complain about this server you should use their forum not ours...

Well it seems Genesis has fixed their biggest bug which was zone freezing, etc.. Less chance of stealing players back if they keep on improving like this.