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Postby Zeroou » Feb 17, 2014 04:26

Hopper1984 wrote:Hiho …

… i have a question to the Uthgard staff... specially the ones who decide, WHAT were going to make more classic/custom and WHY.

My thoughts are :
1. I mean … the staff is in TS, or anything else and talking about what changes they are going to do, they set their priorities to things which has to be done and so on.
2. After the proposal to change the goal to 1.65 instead 1.69 they all talking about the pro and contra.
3. After all the talkings they decided to change the goal, because all members are up to change the goal, whatever the reasons possibly are. (most of the reasons must have been better otherwise they would not have accepted the proposal, in their oppinion at least)
4. Decision was made. BUT there are few things most of the staff are not agreeing with.
5. The talkings started again and after a while the staff arranged each other and they said :
YES … now were done … so lets go to work and make it real.

What i am up to is point four and five.

In one way you decided to implement the Qbinds, but not the Buffshears.
And this is a point i cannot comprehend.
You decided, to implement the Battlegrounds, but not the AE-Buffs.
Another example i cant comprehend.
You have taken the barrels, but there were still tinderboxes implemented.
This is another one.

Okay. You can say that Qbinds concerning each player, Buffshears just three classes ingame, same with example two. BUT each player can create one of the three classes so you can actually say its concerning each player as well.

This is not a complaining post, actually its a question from my side, because i cant understand some changes you made although most of the community (somtimes including me) is not „agreeing“ with, or saying this was a step into the wrong direction. Its less fun to play anymore. Or its going to be less fun.

For me its sometimes like …

...having 22 ppl want to play soccer and youre taking away the football and giving them a tennisball instead. WHAT? Its a ball and you can still play soccer.

… taking away the milk (3.5% fat ofc^^) and giving milk powder instead to enjoy your coffee.
WHAT? Its milk and you can still enjoy your coffee.

… giving Travis Barker, Lars Ulrich, Ringo Starr … some Bongodums and taking away their precussions. WHAT? They have drums to make their beats.

Okay … and now comes my question to the Staff.

What reasons/arguments do you have to make such significant changes?

I mean, i just want to get the point why you are sometimes saying yes and sometimes saying no.




its already 3 AM here soo i wont write something too long.... let me answer your questen with another question....
origins has a patchlvl of 1.62 but has weapons from a much later patchlvl, has custom porters, not livelike pots, Ra´s are not correct, they have qbinds and bg´s ( all of the bg from the actuall live patchlvl ).... this server is 1.62 on the paper but there is almost nothing that actually IS at 1.62 on that server.... im not even mentioning the stuff thats not even working..... and this server has no buffshears.... why are you and most of the other ppl complaining here about this stuff but instantly joined origins to play there without saying anything.... ?
qbinds / Bg´s ect are something that everyone is benefiting from... it just makes raids ect esier.... when it comes to buffshearing.... well its not a real classic / SI feeling with buffshearing... i dont know if anybody of those guys has ever played in classic/SI times... just because you had buffshear untill now doesnt mean it has to stay.... otherwise we could implement speed traps ect... makes it more interesting too....
" so we would leave the milk ( 3,5%) and would even add sugar to it ^^ " but would ppl be happy about it? :D
like i said qbinds/bg´s ect is stuff that everybody is benefiting from... or do you want to lead a raid without a bg by yelling everything so everyone can read it? :D
and buffshearing.... ppl played on live for a clp years without it and those ppl didnt die.... so no worrys you will survive it too!
buffshearing and aoe buffing is not rly a part of a Classic/SI conzept... it wouldnt feel like it ;)
the GM should stay with this decision it will be the best for the playes :)


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Postby Voina » Feb 17, 2014 04:37

Thank you for all efforts of staffs and helpers.

This is some interesting news changes patch goal to 1.65v.

And, I just want to say, don't hurry.

Keep doing your great work slowly and perfectly.

I hope to see more stable server when it is relaunched.

and one more thing i am expecting is, implementing 1realm per 1person restriction if it is possible.

just think about that.

Thanks.

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Postby Laberintica » Feb 17, 2014 05:52

Greetings, fantastic work, I can speak for most that we're eagerly awaiting this new beginning and there's nothing close to Uthgard :grin:

My question is about races. Will the Half-Ogre, Frostalf, Shar? be implemented? I certainly hope so. It makes the game so much more rich and versatile and complex, please add the additional races! Thank you

Lab - awaiting uthgard 2.0 :P

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Postby Kayd » Feb 17, 2014 06:02

Will the sale of plat & in-game items for REAL CASH be tolerated?

The Genesis server staff have made a lot of serious errors in judgment since the start of their server. Tolerating the sale of in-game items and plat for REAL CASH is proving to be their Final Fatal Error. I hope that Uthgard staff takes measures to prevent this. According to Genesis staff, this practice is against the "spirit of the game"; however, the practice continues to be tolerated. Some forum members over on Genesis are even starting to suspect that Genesis staff is taking kickbacks from these "Gold Sellers".

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Postby Austerim » Feb 17, 2014 06:23

Laberintica wrote:Greetings, fantastic work, I can speak for most that we're eagerly awaiting this new beginning and there's nothing close to Uthgard :grin:

My question is about races. Will the Half-Ogre, Frostalf, Shar? be implemented? I certainly hope so. It makes the game so much more rich and versatile and complex, please add the additional races! Thank you

Lab - awaiting uthgard 2.0 :P
Now that they switched to 1.65 I don't think we'll be seeing Half-Ogre, Frostalf, and Shar.

Kayd wrote:Will the sale of plat & in-game items for REAL CASH be tolerated?

The Genesis server staff have made a lot of serious errors in judgment since the start of their server. Tolerating the sale of in-game items and plat for REAL CASH is proving to be their Final Fatal Error. I hope that Uthgard staff takes measures to prevent this. According to Genesis staff, this practice is against the "spirit of the game"; however, the practice continues to be tolerated. Some forum members over on Genesis are even starting to suspect that Genesis staff is taking kickbacks from these "Gold Sellers".
There was one time Abydos banned ~200 people/accounts because of real cash trades. It was never tolerated before and I doubt that changes after revamp. ;)
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Postby t-bone » Feb 17, 2014 07:47

so what can we expect? a mars release? april?

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Postby Gandolff » Feb 17, 2014 08:55

Yeah! Shaman without Buffshare! Thats great!

Play it the old way! ;-)

Can´t wait!

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Postby Lasastard » Feb 17, 2014 09:09

Well, it was always clear that settling on any given patch level will cause debate over features added in just the next patch, or the one after. As a pure support player, losing buff shears sucks of course - but then again, it is more true to the classic setting, so what the hell ^^

Anyway, 1.65 sounds like a sensible idea to be honest. The closer you get to the release of NF and then TOA, the more you are dealing with changes that were done with those expansions in mind.
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Postby Orihiime » Feb 17, 2014 09:13

So server is going 1.65 and bot 1.69 ?
2012:<@[Uth]Abydos> If we don't have SI by the end of the year, Im fairly certain I wont be a GM anymore :-p

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Postby Magicco » Feb 17, 2014 09:38

hmhm when excactly the celtic dual style "ice storm" got its stun-component :P?

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Postby teddie » Feb 17, 2014 09:56

Blue wrote:
Xedie wrote:All those things need to be removed as well :P

No.
Xedie wrote:- Introduction of Battlegroups (1.66)
- Introduction of Qbinds (1.68)
- Introduction of the quiver window (1.68)
- The group window and mini-group window now show the additional following states by changing the affected player's name to an associated color. (1.68) -> such as nearsight, poison, desease, ld etc.

Will stay.


In Short: All post 1.65 things except Dragonfang nerf and Buffshears are implementet. Why then even go for 1.65? Because of all these "buffshears are toa111" idiots?
They should all be forced to play a cleric with 1.65. Stupid as hell :P

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Postby Stormus » Feb 17, 2014 10:06

Magicco wrote:hmhm when excactly the celtic dual style "ice storm" got its stun-component :P?


I belive those were in 1.62
http://web.archive.org/web/200306031909 ... om/styles/

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Postby Stormus » Feb 17, 2014 10:23

Target 1.65 is IMO good choise, very happy with that.

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Postby Xalara » Feb 17, 2014 10:57

very nice to hear! I really like the choice of running it on 1.65. It maintains the classic feeling without the ToA spells (shears etc.) but still keeps it balanced (Albion being viable). It's a far better choice than 1.62, for example!

Can't wait for the launch!

Any news on an ETA ? March release would be really sweet :)

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Postby Panzer » Feb 17, 2014 11:00

xenivex wrote:At least you will be able to kill every single mob with a few casters in a minute.

Panzer wrote:"I win" button, 9 sec stun. Mythic greatest crap ever revived here.


DF was rather harmless compared to bugged LA and the first (and second ... and third ...) iteration of warlocks. I could name a few others...


Sure, LA was freaky at one point. But its not in 1.65 is it? And, it was zerkers who got that benefit, not sb's.

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