Nef Melody wrote:Whatever you decide for, please leave the NAMES as they are. Can be a naked lvl one character if you want to reset everything, but leave me my names

We are already thinking of ways to do this.
We understand the attachment to names and reputation.

Nef Melody wrote:Whatever you decide for, please leave the NAMES as they are. Can be a naked lvl one character if you want to reset everything, but leave me my names

you'll get a new (virtual) life.. take it. use it. besides that.. what are names? nothing. pixel. a DB entry.

Goldbeere wrote:Hi there, this is the next of my quite rare posts, but I think the special occasions need special treatments.......

Beeing none of the elitist players with about ten toons but only RR 5lx I cannot and will not comment on the RR side of the game, beeing one of the players with some houses, stacks with RR stones and about 500 plat I may consider commenting on the economic things a bit.

Yes, playing here for a long time gave me and others the chance of farming good, sometimes perhaps even too good items, and if it is possible, you will do that. Yes, I loved that economic power but I also loved the time farming and playing, so OKAY, that may be gone now. I will loose much, but perhaps I may gain new fun in actually finding stuff, cause having everything in stacks makes you loose the spirit to farm things, what I loved once. Loosing all, as hard as it is, trust me, may (and only if I really try to find SOMETHING good in it) be the beginning of new fun. And I guess you may translate all that in the loosing of RR's also.

But: Lossing my level 50 chars with the names, history and everything, that really would break my heart. leveling is and (hopefully) will be pain in the ass, and is definately NOT the funniest part in classic DAOC, having lesss and less time in RL I guess it would definately keep me away having to do all that again, so please consider the different options already mentioned here.....

Perhaps: Delete ALL RR, Items, houses, etc. pp and leave the chars alive
or
at least leave the Char/s with highest RR (without RR obvioulsy)

Leave Craftskills on those chars also, cause that also is a pain and (trust me) nothing to give a too big advantage in the beginning.

Just for your consideration.

I really do NOT know how to motivate me after this drastic measure you were presenting and after that (that was tooo short) implementing right now. I really LOVED my reskin, loved my nice houses level 4 paid for like in aeternitas, loved my chests full of barrels and Co., my trophies ....... that really makes me sad and kinda frustrated but ....... thats the game, its just a pity.

This is my feelings from the pve side put in much better words than i ever could. wipe my rr9, wipe my 100p wipe my reskins and my items. but leave my lvl 50 char naked standing. wouldt be the same to start over from lvl one. starting from rr1 with 0copper is fine with me but loosing the char as lvl 1 would kill the bound were having. please consider this option

Foneb.. dude.. QQ since page 1 here .. get over it.. this would be BAD.

why? think again! ALL PLAYERS NEED TO BE EVEN at relaunch.. if not.. instant QQ again!

xp * 30 event for the dirst week = problem solved

Foneb wrote:xp * 30 event for the dirst week = problem solved

not fair for people who dont have much time to play in first week, 2/3/4/345 .. think again.

It's (IMO) true that the harder is something to accomplish, - the more is it worth.

easy XP, easy crafter, easy money (besides easy RL money ), heck even easy RP is exciting at begin.. but in the long run it gets boring, worth nothing - because it was so easy to obtain .. and nothing special that keeps (binds) the player playing.

now.. with server wipe .. Uthgard has the ultimate chance to 'fix' the mistakes in the past.

Uthgard, - please - don't make it easier in what form ever to obtain/accomplish anything.. that's not fun in the long run.

since we all start with 0,0 from scratch.. it's finally - after 9 years?! - fair again .. nobody benefits from past XXX-XXX anymore .. and we all start with the same 'hard' settings. no more QQ needed because we're finally all even.

Thanks

Well it won´t be even because people of some dragonraid said they will keep the old points... sounds fair for new players huh?

Trishin wrote:

Nef Melody wrote:Whatever you decide for, please leave the NAMES as they are. Can be a naked lvl one character if you want to reset everything, but leave me my names

We are already thinking of ways to do this.
We understand the attachment to names and reputation.

It's very simple, just don't wipe the players. Problem solved. Maybe we need new GMs who play and understand the real problems. The current ones already ran the server into the ground. So your fix is wipe the GMs not the players.

Zergling, when are you going to understand that life and games are not fair? Wiping does not make it fair. Is it fair some guy sitting in his parents basement that doesnt have to work has 18 hours a day to play this game while I only have 2-4 hours a day at most to play? Fair is not achievable. You had the same chance to start here 10 years ago. You didnt. I also did not. I missed out on alot. However, I started 4 years ago and got some things new players dont have. New players now would have access to things that players a year from now wont have. Welcome to life in gaming and in the real world. My great grandparents could buy a car for a few hundred dollars, buy a house for less then $10,000, and could buy cough syrup with opium and cocaine over the counter. I guess we should reset the world since I didnt have "fair" access to all of this....

Also, sorry, but grasping at straws and begging to keep a name or lvl 50 is just pathetic guys. Quit trying to compromise. A wipe of anything more then gold and custom items is a joke. To be honest even removing those things is kind of ridiculous. SI items as a whole are better then what Taj2 offers, and accelerated degradation on custom items would get these items out of game.

Money I agree is tough, and a reset of plats would possibly be needed, but who cares if JoeBlow has 500 mithril if you can afford a good template and you have enough money to get by. It would be like me asking for the Kennedy family to give up their fortune since I was not afforded the same chance to bootleg whiskey in from Canada since by the time I was born prohibition was over in America. It doesnt work that way.

GreenP wrote:Well it won´t be even because people of some dragonraid said they will keep the old points... sounds fair for new players huh?

this is a external - player made - arrangement .. uthgard, the staff, has no influence for that dragonraid 'points'..

the people in that circle need to accept that this was accumulated on the old server .. that has nothing to do with the "new" server.

Bumping an important subject that many people seem to be using as a scarecrow in order to prevent a potential wipe:

Too many people are exaggerating the stability and wipe issue as a thing that would be a frequent occurence in the comming time, which I do not agree with. Uthgard has run its course throughout 9 (was it?) years from launch to this point with a multitude of settings, some of which have been highly experimental, which have affected the server from that point on. Many of which have been discarded or altered for the later generations of Uthgardians to sit around and dream about obtaining, but with no hope in doing so. I myself am sure I would have been here since early Uthgard had I only known about it. I honestly believe that a wipe is needed, and I actually think, in spite of what many others would contradict, that just wiping and relaunching with the current settings would still yield a significant playerbase. I do not expect frequent future wipes should it happen now, and the staff should emphasize and enforce this. And I am sure that they will.

However, we all agree that this revamp/wipe/disgrace/whatever-you-would-call-it is a chance for Uthgard to do the phoenix reincarnation to once again become the home of so many people, as it has been on several occasions if not interrupted by external forces (some predicted that Diablo3 would kill Uthgard, as well as SWTOR, ESO or whatever). I would like to reinforce Pweet's previous forum post:

Wipe it once, wipe it right.

Internalize that as a mantra. Emphasize that it will be a one-time occurence, and that it is done in order to stabilize the content so that everyone will have access to the same things (some things may (and SHOULD) be bloody difficult and/or time-consuming to obtain, but never _impossible_ as with so many things on Uthgard previously - I have several times dreamed of receiving ****** digital stuff - which is really scary that one can be so consumed by a leisure activity.

Oh, and upon staff news of relaunch, please connect with your peers and advertise these news. There are many former players that have discarded Uthgard because of the intimidating prospect of only being able to become almost-as-good (or mediocre if you will) regardless of how many hours you sink into it. This for me justifies the wipe alone. Also gives me an opportunity to remake character/class combinations and get the names I actually want . Anyways, ADVERTISE, but do NOT go on live and do it as we saw it can become a problem if you are advertising on EA's domain - idiots But re-ignite everyone's passion for DAoC and make them join us in rebuilding a new community together - stronger than ever.

Wipe it once, wipe it right and advertise

Wow, what a decision, but my first feeling was good, even if I play a long time on this server and have some 50s and legendary crafters.

First of all I want to say
THANK YOU Uthgard staff for a great time
and an awesome stable and developed server

And yes, I will come back once, because your knowledge and experience will lead to an even better server.

I found that everybody of the Uthgard team was always kind, polite and helpful. And yes, it's their house and we are the guests.

When it comes to Origins, I tried that and was actually impressed, of how bugged a server could be, but really had some fun there, whenever it's acutally possible to play.

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What I liked on Origins:

1.) Portal-stone (beam to bind/less suicides)
2.) SI and Necro
3.) Mob damage seems more live-like

What I hated on Origins yet (at current state not really comparable to Uthgard)

1.) Bad XP system, disadvantages for solo-players
2.) Bugged quests
3.) Totally wrong and incomplete mobs and strange drop-rates

2. and 3. are teething troubles of a new server. Playing on Uthgard feels far more DAoC-like then on Origins, but yes Origins is fun.

My suggestion for a new Uthgard is
- implement everything that reduces boredom and increases instant fun.
- not to see many suicides for whatever reason (xp off removed, releasing somewhere, ...)
- when being unsure about new features/changes, to do community polls.

UTHGARD4EVER
I will be back

RonELuvv wrote:Also, sorry, but grasping at straws and begging to keep a name or lvl 50 is just pathetic guys. Quit trying to compromise.

agree... more than pathetic. go big or go home. 100% or nothing. this is THE chance.

life is 100% not fair .. but .. we all know that .. so we can try our best to make a 'small community' free game fair.

Equade wrote:However, we all agree that this revamp/wipe/disgrace/whatever-you-would-call-it is a chance for Uthgard to do the phoenix reincarnation to once again become the home of so many people, as it has been on several occasions if not interrupted by external forces (some predicted that Diablo3 would kill Uthgard, as well as SWTOR, ESO or whatever). I would like to reinforce Pweet's previous forum post:

Wipe it once, wipe it right.

If they had done it right from the start it wouldnt have needed a wipe to begin with. I would have to do some serious searching Equade, but in either a personal PM or in some random thread a long time I ago I recall Blue saying that there would NEVER be a wipe here and it would destroy the stability of the server if it ever happened. Crap hit the proverbial fan and now a wipe seems imminent.

The mantra should have been do it right and no need to wipe. Saying it will only happen once is the dumbest thing EVER. The only way they can promise this is if when the server opens they NEVER change anything. Otherwise what is to stop another wipe? Nothing. They already said would never be a wipe and now there is, so saying there will never be another wipe would just be another empty promise. One of thousands given by the GM's over my years here.