My poor characters are innocent and they aren't even jews

My poor warden trying to crawl out of the gas chamber

Celteen wrote:

fabsfrigga wrote:Wanna know why people dont go out to frontiers? Because they reach 50 and dont have money to get temped, they cant farm most of the items they need and cant afford to buy them either... Its bad enough to go out and find people with high RR around, but go out without being temped is just a NO NO!!!

And yes, only reason i didnt go out (except for keep tasks with guild), i didnt even look for a RvR group not even once was: GUESSS!!!! Because i got to 50 faster than i was able to get my temp done even farming warshades before u decided to nerf drops there too...

Typicall PvE whiner who never made it to endgame RvR.

I got my lvl 50 char 3 years ago with the same problems as you. Guess what I farmed 1-2 weeks used my SC programm and designed the f.king cheapest bard temp ever and played with it till RR10
No Taj item, no dragon item, no legion no worm no anything and I was competetive not like you

Guess what my brother did at the same time
He got his lvl 50 char 3 years ago with the same problems as you. Guess what he farmed 1-2 weeks used his SC programm and designed the f.king cheapest eld temp ever and played with it till RR10
No Taj item, no dragon item, no legion no worm no anything and he was competetive

hahahahaha i love this "i did this X years ago"... 3 years ago was BEFORE drop nerf so no, not the same... when i hit 50 i had farmed ALL my temp items by MYSELF cause my temp was made since i was lvl 10 so really?!?!?! The problem is: i couldnt get money/bars enough to make my armor, simple as that!!! And u took 1-2 weeks to get your temp done? Really?!?!?! why was that so slow? Cause if it wasnt the nerf, if i had the same rate as u did back then, i surelly would have mine away faster than that...

Dont speak about things u dont know...

Ah and editing to say that during the 2 months i ve been playing on uthgard i spent some of my time searching for items to fix the temp for at least 4 of my guildmates and playing on thid ofc before it closed on a char that wasnt even mine ROTFL Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

While I can understand why losing your RRs, crafting skill, and time spent playing is upsetting. It is simply foolish to believe that the server will stay afloat WITHOUT a wipe. There is a hot new server. The keyword there is: new. NO ONE is going to want to play Uthgard, besides the people already RR10+ with gear and an active guild, while there is something new to play. A new place to find a guild, and simply have the option of easily finding a farm group to be able to farm items and gold. Uthgard has to be NEW to be a popular server again. If you can't understand that, then QQ on. Welcome to DAoC freeshards.

Celteen; shush. Your idiotic YOU..CANT...HANDLE...MY....SWAG avatar says everything that we all need to know. You will be back on Uth, I am sure (if it opens again). But it will only be because you seemingly have an obsession that almost no one else in 2014 has for a game that was released in 2001 and according to the 1.69 goal, has a 2003 peak. Elitisim had at least as much to uth's dismise as did thid/items/plat farming/or gms. And in my limited 15 months of observation, the only friendly interaction I had with the CORE IRI guys (even though i sent other peeps many times for numerous things) was when i bought harkons jester hat for 7.5 plat. So news flash, you are a dick, and sooooo many people who act like you are dicks. Have fun if/when Uthgard reopens, but you will lose almost every decent, yet not obsessed player like myself. You look yourself in the mirror, and you assume your MORE then fair share of the blame yourself.

I lump Nayeh and MB in this group as well.

Have fun if/when uth ever restarts you aholes.

Alpha

What you resist, persists.

Keep persisting Uthgard. I will be here waiting. All the best.

muahahaha flies out to abydos

Too many posts to read...

Anyways, with origins around, the population definitely took a dive. The problem with origins is the stability... People left Uthgard because of the cap in rr. When Uthgard is back on, I'm sure lots of people will come back to Uthgard because Uthgard is more stable. I will definitely be back when its on.

I believe you have located a difficult decision to make , after all as I've said , the hallmark of Uthgard is : - stable and reliable server .
However , I admire the attitude of staff and support their decisions since this is all in favor of something much bigger , the amount of players on the server .
It's like I said and spoke : - What good be king if there is anyone who govern?
If there was a wipe or anything , but bring them ~ 1,500 players ( even more) , was a positive outcome for the community and for the sim game ! After all , wants to be with his 30 lvl 50 chars playing alone ?
Daoc is a difficult game to get a balance and fun for everyone , unfortunately the game favors (much ) just a slice elite , those who are " pro " in Daoc , where the consequences are discomfort and disappearance of new players , as that no one likes to be "dead " or humiliated every time (or most of them) .
I wish all the luck in the world for Uthgard staff and they can find a balance in all of these problems and provide us another server lots of fun and equality for all (at least for awhile).

lets see what QQ arise's on new uthgard... if the only QQ around is how they lost their toons ect on old uthgard its a win. wipe will remove all previous issues ingame and if your desired implementation is not in new uthgard then no worries because like you nobody can benifit or has previously benifited from it...

EVERYBODY now has the same oppertunity and plenty of time to prepare so no excuse's not start on launch day or the very least launch week.

you all speak about gms shooting themselves in the foot........ well do urself a favour all and start uthgard from launch day or u will all be back to square 1 and effectivly shooting urself in the foot because after all most of us just want to play Dark age of Camelot and the place to be for that is uthgard, u know how rapid a community can grow and u dnt wanna miss out and be yet another late starter.

that being said ur ofc allowed to become a loyal member of origins but so u know origins has been in beta for aprox 6 years and seeing what they managed to produce on their launch day im not prepared to hold my breath and still 6 years behind uthgard. you know uthgard was always considered a beta and i for 1 along with countless others have sat through its growing pains and im still experiencing them but soon the finished product will be all ours!

CU on the other side

stag wrote:Too many posts to read...

Anyways, with origins around, the population definitely took a dive. The problem with origins is the stability... People left Uthgard because of the cap in rr. When Uthgard is back on, I'm sure lots of people will come back to Uthgard because Uthgard is more stable. I will definitely be back when its on.

i think the term "revamp" is the exact opposite of "stable". I will not create a new char on this server that maybe will be deleted in 2-3 years

People that were at the end of the 'food chain', will end up in exactly the same place again with Uthgard 2.0. And I don't mean that in an insulting way; PvP games simply do have this sort of gradient, nothing you can do about it. Yes, you could make some tweaks to the game overall and yes, people may have benefited from old bugs more than some of the newer players, but I really refuse to believe that this can explain situations where Uthgard had ~1000 players online and still noone would do RvR. There have been many suggestions over the years to make the Devs see reason and to focus on things such as time sinks in RvR (taking long to equip your char is one thing, but being bugged by ridiculous down time in RvR is a constant, never ending issue) and urging them to finish the OF implementation - but there you go.

Come to think of it, maybe it is a good thing to reset the server, and the community along with it. Because clearly Uthgard's community over the past couple of years wasn't really into DAoC RvR and the spirit of having to 'work' (note the quotation marks) towards your place in the RvR landscape. All I read is complaints about how not having an uber template makes you avoid RvR, when every active RvR player (soloers excluded) will tell you that a cheap-ass template is completely sufficient to participate and have success. Our guild was running ridiculously cheap templates for most of our 'life-span', and most of us didn't do any farming beyond what was absolutely necessary. I was wearing my epic torso up until RR7, for crying out loud...

RvR wasn't active enough, and that is what makes it hard for people to find a place there - so how can we make it active? As I suggested above, improving RvR needs to be addressed on the level of the RvR game play mechanics - not with drop rates, xp boni or other incentives to get people to level 50 and equipped. This was never a major issue on Uthgard (looking at all those PvE-players with 10++ level 50 chars, all 4L2..^^). Right now the core design of Uthgard punishes casual RvR players and fails to acknowledge key differences between DAoC on live servers in 2003 and Uthgard in 2013/14. People want to RvR, but they don't want to sit around with RvR sickness, sitingt on a porter pad, run long distances with no inc only to get wiped.

A char wipe is not the answer..and it will hurt the server.

Edit:

Some key steps to be taken without destroying every players accomplishements:

- implement OF RAs and cap RPs and realm ranks at 10L10(people have been waiting so long for this; one reason why so many joined Origins, imho)
- implement SI (even if it is not fully finished...)
- implement a master account system and lock players into one realm of their choosing (Origins as done this, and it is a good idea...)
- remove non-RvR related time sinks in RvR (instant port to the porter keeps, remove ressurrection sickness or at the very least it's effect on buff concentration pools)
- try to be a bit more...fun!? RvR events, community interaction, adjusting game play mechanics to benefit the players, rather than to satisfy someones' OCD.

fabsfrigga wrote:

Celteen wrote:

fabsfrigga wrote:Wanna know why people dont go out to frontiers? Because they reach 50 and dont have money to get temped, they cant farm most of the items they need and cant afford to buy them either... Its bad enough to go out and find people with high RR around, but go out without being temped is just a NO NO!!!

And yes, only reason i didnt go out (except for keep tasks with guild), i didnt even look for a RvR group not even once was: GUESSS!!!! Because i got to 50 faster than i was able to get my temp done even farming warshades before u decided to nerf drops there too...

Typicall PvE whiner who never made it to endgame RvR.

I got my lvl 50 char 3 years ago with the same problems as you. Guess what I farmed 1-2 weeks used my SC programm and designed the f.king cheapest bard temp ever and played with it till RR10
No Taj item, no dragon item, no legion no worm no anything and I was competetive not like you

Guess what my brother did at the same time
He got his lvl 50 char 3 years ago with the same problems as you. Guess what he farmed 1-2 weeks used his SC programm and designed the f.king cheapest eld temp ever and played with it till RR10
No Taj item, no dragon item, no legion no worm no anything and he was competetive

hahahahaha i love this "i did this X years ago"... 3 years ago was BEFORE drop nerf so no, not the same... when i hit 50 i had farmed ALL my temp items by MYSELF cause my temp was made since i was lvl 10 so really?!?!?! The problem is: i couldnt get money/bars enough to make my armor, simple as that!!! And u took 1-2 weeks to get your temp done? Really?!?!?! why was that so slow? Cause if it wasnt the nerf, if i had the same rate as u did back then, i surelly would have mine away faster than that...

Dont speak about things u dont know...

Ah and editing to say that during the 2 months i ve been playing on uthgard i spent some of my time searching for items to fix the temp for at least 4 of my guildmates and playing on thid ofc before it closed on a char that wasnt even mine ROTFL Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Think you will get farmed on a new server too.

Haha all those flames remember me how it was when I started here. The circle is closing
The truth hurts I know

Back to topic.
Uthgard 2.0 should think about NF, it's way better for casual zergs.

Lasastard wrote:- remove non-RvR related time sinks in RvR (instant port to the porter keeps, remove ressurrection sickness or at the very least it's effect on buff concentration pools)

Also if you die in emain /release should drop you back in your emain keep NOT the border keep unless you /release house or /release city(why doesn't Uthgard have release city again? What exactly does that hurt?)