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Postby svperstar » Jan 26, 2014 13:10

Plok wrote:Gl - Hf - You had the chance to pick up the battle instead of running like small kids, but i guess running is your way of finding the best solution.


You know Plok Origins has a no Pedophile rule.............
There will be a group of people out there who will want this realm to be entirely Mythic-like. Exactly like vanilla, drop rates/xp rates, basically everything and you will not be able to please them unless it is exactly like vanilla.

These people have their nostalgia goggles on so tight it's cutting off the bloodflow to their brain and they believe that vanilla was perfect and nothing was wrong with it.


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Postby svperstar » Jan 26, 2014 13:11

I said this in Ron's thread may as well say it here:

No matter what Uthgard does, they cannot compete with American population. The Uth American population has always been low. If Origins can maintain 500+ American players there is no reason for me to come back here.

I am not a Euro. I couldn't care less if Requiem beat ROTLA on Tuesday morning at 10am or vice vera. Meaningless to me. Some American players have made it their goal to join a Euro guild and log on every single day at 10am and they do this.

I am hoping I can hop on at 5pm and get good action. Uthgard has never been able to offer that. Origins ends up with American Primetime RvR and I am sold.
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There will be a group of people out there who will want this realm to be entirely Mythic-like. Exactly like vanilla, drop rates/xp rates, basically everything and you will not be able to please them unless it is exactly like vanilla.

These people have their nostalgia goggles on so tight it's cutting off the bloodflow to their brain and they believe that vanilla was perfect and nothing was wrong with it.


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Postby holsten-knight » Jan 26, 2014 13:11

i just read the first 3 pages... for sure a serverwipe suxx, but you make it look like you worked for your toons and stuff here. Well if you did... you should look for a work that is paied better. :wink:

For me (losing 28 million rp on one char, not counting my others that are 7L+), this was fun. And will be fun to do it again.

And why all of you jump on a new server and play there, but say you will not play on uthgard again if it gets relaunched... I see you feel offended - yet at the same time it is your fault, leaving the server and crying that it gets a wipe, after the playerbase drops below a critical mass, is illogical - but from a neutral point of view it just makes no sense.
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Postby Zonks » Jan 26, 2014 13:13

If their high rr toons is the only reason they will stay, then let them leave. I have not seen Uthgard wipe toons in a very long time, so making the point that they will not come back because of repeat wipes is not valid. And voting to see who all wants a wipe or not, will see more votes from the angry people, as they live on these forums now. People that are okay or just accept it, may not spend every minute on here and would miss such vote.

If Uthgard can make the changes they are aiming for and can offer a diff experience then other servers, they will get people. Competition is good and i hope the wipe will see some great changes for the fresh start for everyone.

I also agree that switching realms need to be limited here after the wipe, i hope that is in consideration.

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Postby pweet » Jan 26, 2014 13:19

We build up a guild community, you cant destroy that by wiping a server ;)

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Postby Everzs » Jan 26, 2014 13:30

I haven't got many characters on Uthgard, and as a potential newbie, a wipe would not bring me (and many others) to Uthgard because the same issues will continue to exist. Personally I just want one highly populated server to be able to play on, rather than the hit and miss we currently have with both Origins and Uthgard. A few simple fixes will bring the population to your doors, and have some neutrals such as myself willing to give Uthgard another chance.

- Shrouded Isles must be implemented. All the classes included as well. There should be no ifs and buts about this, it's the best expansion this game ever had and rightfully should be in the game. It adds the necessary PvE to keep the game from getting stale and would add in classes like the Necromancer and Bonedancer, both of which are highly popular classes. A major reason I and my friends didn't hang around on Uthgard was because of the lack of SI. True Classic, i.e. DAoC at it's finest included SI.

- The XP rate. This old nutshell. The veterans here will turn around and say it forces people to be committed. Those of us who want to just try out Uthgard are immediately put off by the archaic rate of gaining XP. Where is the fun in doing what was you did 11+ years ago. The XP rate was shambolic and was continually made harder rather than easier. I know your trying to add in a grouping mentality but with the xp as slow as it was it caused other numerous server problems.. such as the lack of people in RvR. Up the rate so that it won't take a month to get to 50 but a decent week. Make it so solo leveling is viable. You want a healthy population, the cater to the needs to of both the hardcore and the casual. More people will stick around and come to the server if they know that it won't take an eon to get to the max level.

- Don't wipe. I don't see what any of this solves, I'm not a Uthgard Vet and stand to gain the most from a wipe, but I don't see the point, the issues will still exist.

- Work on Implemented Old RAs, this is the biggest catch you need to have. When I sought to try out Uthgard over 3 years ago now, I tried it because you were stating that Old RAs were to be introduced 'soon'. Ironically, even to this day they still haven't made it onto the server, and again, the server has suffered for it. If I wanted to play an OF server will NF RAs, I would go to Eden. Add them in, it'll add a nostalgic feeling and reduce the RR gap that people use as a clutch.

Essentially, I come across as saying 'copy what Origins did', and truthfully you should. They have a good product over there that is only let down by the god awful lag. YOU HAVE THE ONE THING THEY DON'T , you have a solid server, capable of handling big number. You have the power to take Origins best ideas, implement them on Uthgard and then offer a better service. I, and others would certainly flock to Uthgard if you were able to offer what Origins does, but on a more stable format. Use your brains, this is a business essentially, someone has come out with a new invention, yet you still hold the one thing they desire, you take the best parts of their invention and use it to improve your own. You hold the key to a successful server. Implement SI, OF RA's and better XP and watch the masses flock to Uthgard.

Continue with a wipe and don't change anything? Expect an empty server, which is what no one wants.
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Postby Molotow » Jan 26, 2014 13:40

I still think a full wipe is the best thing the staff decided for long...
Too much mistakes have been made during the past few years, and the wealth between old and new players is way too huge, same as the items which have been implemented... tajendi, leg weapons (some aren't fixed yet i'm talking about elementary damage and dps above 16.5) ....

I agree some ppl are upset loosing kind of stuff they worked for, as i do, but uthgard needs to get back to the roots and i think a fresh start hopefully by learning about the mistakes they made is the best thing to do.

Uthgard wasnt fun anymore in the past years for me and a lot of players in my old team, the port timers, lack of action, the long ways until get some action, the zerging....

A fun part of uthgard has always been the bg's providing 'instant' action with a small zone and players able to find each other.
The RvR zones i had most fun in have been new frontiers emain ofc, then agramon. I guess the frontiers being too big and the port timers killed quite some action. No one wants to log in, wait 7+ minutes for a port, the build grp, then walk about 5-10mins before being able to get some action....

Therefor please consider after the wipe :
- BG action until 50
- No overkill timers and 10minutes walking to get to the frontiers
- Maybe 1 rvr zone for smallscale action
- 1 rvr zone for 8vs8
- 1 frontier for zerging and allowing low rr's to farm some rp's ?

Anyway, i've had really good fun on uthgard and will give it after the wipe atleast 1 more try :)

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Postby rafagijon » Jan 26, 2014 13:43

wipe = bye bye thid, blue said we can get lvl 50 in 2 weeks... oh sure!.... what happed whit tradeskills? admins will give us free money to start again ??

if origins make stable their server im sure uthgard is dead forever.


- change actual gms.
- implement SI+OldRAS
- best xp rate, money and rps
- change r12 to r4
- 10 charge pots
- flying mounts

and the most important: :angry: LISTEN U COMUNITY. :angry:

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Postby munchies » Jan 26, 2014 13:47

As a pretty new player i dont mind the wipe, since getting 50 in daoc is not too hard and getting templated isnt too hard either. Hope you guys figure this out and we have a nice active, stable and fun server once again. Compared to origins atleast you can play here soon, origins is just so damn laggy. Anyway to keep the mood up i made a meme aswell:

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Postby Everzs » Jan 26, 2014 13:49

Laughably, the 'elitest arseholes' will still exist, regardless of a wipe. They'll be rr8 whilst those who are moaning will still be rr3. Doesn't solve an issue of any kind.
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Postby Zaya » Jan 26, 2014 13:50

Hello,

it's sad to see uthgard shutting down. But if the staff feels like it, the decision is made and we have to live with it.

I just want to thank you for the last six months, had a lot of fun here after returning from my studies :)

Best wishes to the staff (maybe you can enjoy your rl a bit more now) and looking forward to see some players on Origins again, registered today :)

So long,

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Postby Foneb » Jan 26, 2014 14:07

i can just state it again and again : wipe rps & money & all items. but leave the chars & tradeskill so you still have the bound to your char. im not willing to start every char over with the stat screen, i will loose all bound i have
Hiois - Ranger 9lX Uth 1.0
Hiois - Enchanter 6lx Uth 2.0
Mugad - Warden 4lx Uth 2.0
Esigil - Druid 3lx Uth 2.0
Hioisx - Nightshade 1lx Uth 2.0

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Postby pweet » Jan 26, 2014 14:16

This will give old players big advantages at launch, not gona happen =)

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Postby Icybo » Jan 26, 2014 14:18

I think we all agree that our Char's have played we years, must be replaced with nothing (we have a lot of time and heart blood is used), and also many of the old players are now complemented by a complete wipe stop here (I think).
There was, in many recent changelog's that were absolutely unnecessary and the rvr have made even less attractive.
I have found on other servers if you level up faster, is also much in rvr los (New Frontiers and enough power for long fights is there also an advantage).
So much time and money (I any crafter on Legendary) just go away ..... pity!

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Postby Gamma Ray » Jan 26, 2014 14:20

finally.

you should do it before Origins openings. What a strange mistake, as some of your recent decision ( end of xp/off , new battle ground , range in /lfg chat )

I started in December 2012 and had a lot a pleasure...at begin, even with this NORMAL xp. But all these last decisions make me feel Admin were hating their players.

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