CaptnIglo wrote:I honestly don't understand why anyone would ask for an advantage whatsoever for players who already have the advantage of already being lvl 50 compared to new players. If at all I'd rather give the latter an advantage, some kind of starter pack to get them going.

Was a suggestion for people like me who have many level 50s and have been playing on Uth a while. Level 50 does nothing for you if you are naked and have no money to buy a vendor sword at least. At level 1 everything is your level so no roadblock.

This about people who put in the time having a reason to come back.

_Oglop_ wrote:(Begins to weep)

Indeed... So, so disapointed. While I agree a major change is needed. Wiping is not. Years, and years of ppl's lives will be wasted even more than they already were (irl). Seriouslly, dont Fck with ppl like that. We are loyal players, not your testing pawns. You once thrived because of us so for once get a large and REAL understanding from your player base. I hear always about" the majority of players want this change" yet I see no basis or claim, just a insta-change. We obviously dealt with the bugs forever, but that was no excuse. In fact the defense penetration was one of the biggest freaking problems, but in the end all I saw was... "You guys do it cause we tried and didn't get anywhere" basically.

So yes, make changes, just don't waste our time and wipe. Hopefully the immense response your getting makes you think about us instead of you. So much time and effort of our lives will be wasted. DON'T FREAKN DO IT!

Quit wasting your time all.. I have argued and argued and the GM's refuse to see reason. They want out.

I plan on writing a more well thought out article tomorrow, but for now, I think it is important to point out that a) most of the people posting seem to lean towards NOT a complete wipe; and b) I feel there is a severely under-represented sector of the player base that is not being portrayed, simply because they have gotten fed up and left long ago. By revamping without a complete wipe, Uth stands a chance of rising again. However, a complete wipe will almost undoubtebly result in permanent attrition by 90% of your player base that has never posted, but has contributed.

Listening to a vocal minority without considering the totality of the population is simply poor operational procedure.

I will post a more cogent and thought-out farewell tomorrow, if this wipe proceeds undettered in spite of the vast majority of people voicing against it.

Alpha

PS - I also feel that ~40 players online atm in the "USA Prime Time" when you can port to other realms homelands is extremely telling as well. No one simply cares anymore, if you choose to destroy our estimated hundreds of thousands of hours of time invested; maybe even millions of person-hours (and yes, i also realize it is Absolutely Blue/GM's right to delete/wipe/shut-down forever Uthgard).

You managed to play here for years, but registered in the forum just a couple of weeks ago?

You´ve had enough time to participate in the discussion. But what you did was playing w/o any participation on discussions, and now you want the admins to "hear" your opinion?

Hmmm....

I only can support Newthgard if you promise to give Tajendi back!

Alphaone wrote:Listening to a vocal minority without considering the totality of the population is simply poor operational procedure.

I will post a more cogent and thought-out farewell tomorrow, if this wipe proceeds undettered in spite of the vast majority of people voicing against it.

How do you know it's not a vocal minority that is voting against a wipe?

Obviously, wipe things clean otherwise you got streak marks and stink following you all dayz!

10 50's, 2 lgm's, rr6+, plats galore here...but asking for an advantage on a fresh start just shows how people justify they deserve something. This is a game, not RL, get over it and have fun and get good or stay bad.

Mount up!

jambalaya wrote:Why the population decrease ?
=> because casual player didnt wanna come in frontier because of high ranking fix group

did the wipe solve the ?
=> yes in short-term/middle term, but it dont solve the main problem , casual player will not come back in frontier on long term.

How to solve the problem ?
Make an infinite battleground (rp off, xp off) on ONE battleground for the casual gamer, let the other high ranking player on frontier.

This is good. When I first came to Uthgard I said to staff "Make thid accessible to players level 50 and make it never cap".

That way the casual player who does not have a set 8 man can always go RvR. The 4-5 elite guilds on the server can go to emain and kill each other all day long.

svperstar wrote:
This is good. When I first came to Uthgard I said to staff "Make thid accessible to players level 50 and make it never cap".

That way the casual player who does not have a set 8 man can always go RvR. The 4-5 elite guilds on the server can go to emain and kill each other all day long.

Or compromise: offer access to Thidranki a few times a week, possibly linked to some event or accomplishment. It might be interesting to see what that would do for server numbers during those periods.

The same 8man setgrps would rule thid than and the problem would be the same as before

The server died NOT because of "various reasons" (like new games/summer/winter time as suggested by some GM), WE the players know why we left. Some of them have kept telling you guys OVER and OVER again WHY they left. You don't listen. Its not because of some various reasons, its the EXACT reasons listed by the players who left, who yet still care enough to post here, and had enough hope that this server might bounce back up, and that GMs might for once LISTEN and make the changes with respect and consideration for the majority of the community; so that these players can one day come back to play on the old uthgard they remembered and enjoyed!

Look at those reasons why these players left if you want to attract players to Uthgard again. The reasons have been repeated over and over again (by MANY players of different realms and RRs). If you are not going to be able to come to a compromise between what the players views as a FUN and ideal server and 1.69, then you have solved nothing. No players will come back. Because nothing has changed.


You cannot force people to RvR. You can only encourage them.
Forceful actions like removing Thidranki (or even ALL BGs for that matter) will not increase your RvR population by one bit, because you have not solved ANY of the problems that discouraged these player from RvRing in the first place. In fact you did the exact opposite thinking that by taking everything away that is not Emain RvR will force these people out. NO. All you did was force them to leave the game, because all you did was take away one of the last things that this group of players still enjoyed with uthgard, as well as causing further discord with the community.

After they removed thid there was nice RvR kinda every day in Emain. Even a lot of Zerg RvR.
I think w/o Origins going live it could have worked.

And why they shouldnt come back? What does Origins have that Uthgard dont? Except the new start into the game?
And I think thats the main reason why alot players left, the new start into a game that they know.
Its not becasue Origins is the better server, they have lags, server crashes all the time. And so many bugs I dont know if someone could count them.

GUYS/AND GIRLS I GUESS!. Stfu ok they gunna wipe we just move to another server no need to argue its gunna happen ****** uthgard ya I said it!

There will be no more money from my end ever after this retarded move FU sTAFF