ZerGlinG wrote:never seen so much QQ in one thread

some people have nothing better in RL to do than post the whole day in a game forum. wow!

And you too :lol:

Bellatrix wrote:We'll do our best to make all the players, that might have an idea to come back here, not to.
And trust me, it will be very easy. On monday 27th at 01:00 you'll lose 20 players that togheter will make you lose hundreds more.

I don't know what your problem with uthgard is, but judging from your post it has definitly nothing to do with the upcoming revamp. How anybody can get so lost in a game that he feels the urge to write things like that is absolutly beyond me.

Panzer wrote:

syreal wrote:

Panzer wrote:The way YOU have managed this server...........and now this?

The higher RR we have raised, the lower your IQ has sunken.

Dont expect me back, being at a server ruled by retards, dont think so. Over and OUT!

ROFL

I bet you don´t even know what IQ means.

Why dont you go f u c k yourself you idiot?

Why don´t you go? Ehm ....

Panzer wrote:Dont expect me back...... Over and OUT!............

Did u say these words?

Did u say these words?

Do you see me playing you son of a motherless goat? Bet you dont know what gender you belong to.

Like your 2 posts at the end of an era. Guess you are one of all the whiners who could not beat a greycon.

Panzer wrote:

Did u say these words?

Do you see me playing you son of a motherless goat? Bet you dont know what gender you belong to.

Like your 2 posts at the end of an era. Guess you are one of all the whiners who could not beat a greycon.

Not with your weapons....

seems like the only way to get rid of people who qq/flame/argue to death is close the forum too.

motherless goat ... go f u c k yourself .... idiot ...

Guess it's time for me to leave this discussion. The intellectuals have taken over.

Bellatrix wrote:As Rinnegati GM I can officially say that we won't come back.
You can remove all our RPS, but if you'll delete our characters we'll never come back.

You'll lose all the credibility you gained in last 11 years with this wipe. We'll do our best to make all the players, that might have an idea to come back here, not to.
And trust me, it will be very easy. On monday 27th at 01:00 you'll lose 20 players that togheter will make you lose hundreds more.
History should teach you that after a wipe there's.. nothing! People will lose interest in playing in a server that has had a wipe, and you'll even lose more desire in working on such project. All of this will bring you down and it's all because of you and your wrong decisions.

In any case, thanks for all, we had a great time here

Regards,
Bellatrix

i just hope that blue noticed that the majority of highrr players (who are hurt the most) say unisono that wiling rps is ok but removing chars isnt. please keep that in mind blue that once again we all trying to help you make the right decision. engage in that argument and not avoid it. lets talk it out here give your input and reasons why you think that a full wipe is nececary etc. discuss with us what your goal is and where you see problems. ENGAGE with the comunity in this most radical decicon ever on uthgard, sincd most of the diehard uth players are ready to compromize on some mayor losses to help uthgard overall.

Origins is at the moment almost messed up... many tries to log in and just kicked out after char select... that server is far from stable and seems to reboot more than once per hour or is even down. and you will shut down uthgard while facing a buggy server?

what about going back through the changelogs and bring back the "non game breaking stuff"? flying mounts, hasteners in PvE-Zones (the speed is gone after you enter combat - so you will normally look for a speed class to travel further), barrels and other stuff that decreases timesinks?

you announced old RA for next month. and now a shot down this month? so old RAs not ready? anyway before you announced old RAs (with another upcoming freeshard in the near future which offers old RAs) your goal was around 1.80 by removing ToA-Stuff and a custom fix for OP things (Viper 3) that fits into the balancing.

10 players means 10 different opinions of what is right and wrong. but if you just had done some fixing for imbalance (from the state of spring 2012) while go for a not so live like server it would have been fine imho. even with new RAs the feeling was classic enough for most players. At this point you should have upped xp rate and drop rate (x2, like frozen grounds. game experience felt quite ok without having the issue to get bored close to 50).

finally (late? too late?) you gave a port in the frontiers to speed up to get people to where the action is (or was before numbers of players dropped).

back in the days you had 1100 to 1200 players per realm on servers like stonehenge. that never happens on any freeshard afaik - so who needs xp rates from 2003 when you barely can gather a trio? so youre stucked to your 50s. hey, when I raised my first toon on Stonehenge my guild told me to skip the battlegrounds and got out with 45+ in guild group. because frontiers were overcrowded and there was alwys inc (zerg, three way fights, with old RAs was winning the mezz (if it was 8 vs almost a sure win).

RR wipe won't change much, killing other earned things (crafters) with a full wipe is a reason for many to not enter Uthgard again.

But do as you like and kill the server...

(the venture to Origins was just to take a look, why not? i missed the zerg-xp-bug and now i'm close to 20...
but when I start there from zero - why should i do this here again? 1.62 is not too far from 1.69)

syreal wrote:Did u say these words?

hmm no,,,,, seems like he wrote them ?

a fresh start is desperatly needed and that amoungst a few other facts is why Everyone and more has rolled on origins.

the haters are always gonna hate and its completly natural that people who have invested waay more time than the casual players will feel victimised but i personaly had time to get my head around this idea since ive been wanting a wipe for past 2 years and i can assure all you verterans that the bigger picture IS appealing and in the long run better.


Remove all Custom NERFS. daoc was how daoc was. the only acceptable custom implementations are the few small Positive ones ( bind port stone / higher amount of charges on pots(barrels) and what ever the GM's / Playerbase feel we could all benifit nicely from bringing the game to 2014 standards.

Ever since i've played uthgard the same arguement has been around. 50-200 people benifiting from years of bugs / custom zones / custom boss's / and ofc most anoyingly the smallman easy mode farming locations on all 3 realm were heavily farmed by the few to be later nerfed for the majority and not even at the same time. i.e hibs salvage drop farm spots only been nerfed this year whilst mids / alb havnt had access to a descent salvage farm spot for a much longer period of time.
i understand why all the changes were initialy made and the goal was to make every aspect of the game more valuable and the longer u take to get something increase's its value to you which believe it or not worked although it backfired massivly ( 80% of uthgard population was perma pve mode for a much longer time than they ever imagioned. less than half of the 80% ever make it to rvr standards meaning they quit a fantastic rvr mmo due to the longwinded hardcore asain style pve mode uthgard has adopted.

i.e you know you've got a problem when the best items in the game cost 100+ plat, a new casual player spends 1 year or more to farm this gold and they are competing to buy this item against rich ass players who didnt spend anywhere near a year grinding their cash barely blinks an eyelid and out bids u ( this is all because the few benifited from normal livelike farming whilst the majority fall victim to the custom nerfs ) it takes many years for items to even come close to costing 100p and since average items starting costing 20-50p all templates became a daunting task. removal of tajendi is good but leaving the items ingame was bad, now all established players are fully temped and newcomers need the 50-100p per item for a possible fullcap temp. i would like to see any GM take on the task of lvling from 1-50 & getting a fullcap template + 100p in their wallet with limited hours per day / week. you will understand how painfull you made uthgard for the new playerbase.

now the above is just pve lol, also imagion rvr for the new playerbase. uthgard has realmrank 12's which is not the end of the world but whats highly anoying is those rr12's and ALOT of other high rr players benifited from many various rvr changes over the years. tasks ( both grp and solo player kills and guard kills ) / various rvr zones ( BG sized rvr zone agramon ) / even something minor like hasteners & barrels effected peoples abilitys to earn descent realmpoints / and proberly alot more that i wasnt around to experience.

ultimatly if uthgard was exactly the same as it was on launch day then id say no to the wipe.

since uthgard has become such a different server over the years with a sick amount of changes and nerfs, nothing is fair anymore, so i say YES to the wipe.

[/quote]hmm no,,,,, seems like he wrote them ?[/quote]

Oh! Yes he did.

Orihiime wrote:

dealinjah wrote:

Kenderkenobi wrote:But I just came back and started getting into it again.

But I also agree with any plan to revitalize the server and I agree that there needs some fixing.

I'll eagerly await this new finished product, and hope that is not good-bye.

Thanks Blue, and thanks to the staff.

same for me wipe = goodbye

But what do you think the start want ? you know, your goodbye will be 10 newcomers, if staff do it well, with advertising, good clean, and a totally fresh start, believe me, there will be a lot of people that will play here

100% agree

for 1 high RR goodbye
=> 10 newcomers + 10 old casual gamer