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Postby Foneb » Jan 25, 2014 22:20

a rr wipe is defenatly needed and i think aupported by the mayority (except selfish ******). a monex wipe is also long needed and will help. a item wipe is i think painfull but nececary aswell to get the custum stuff of the server. a complete charwipe though is unenecary painfull and will drove ppl of uneeded. imo leve all chars/craftskills the way they are to let ppl keep there long time invested charaxters. perhaps leave all titles/counters in aswell to keep ppls archivements at least in some non gameplay.affecting way. this way i think uthgard can be strong again without driving away the old guys. if you go completly dogmatic on this change aswell i think it will hurt more then it helps.

please listen to the players at least once on this mayor break from uthgard standart policy
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Postby Aerewyn » Jan 25, 2014 22:22

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Postby Murax » Jan 25, 2014 22:32

Well, long time no see.

I just stumbeld upon this News and I hardly could believe it.
Although I do understand that such step is kind of needed - I dont believe this is a correct way to do it.

Why?

Just give it 3 Month and there are 1-5 new SG´s with the same advantages and superior Realm Rank the old player base has now.
What you win with that?
Its just how Daoc is meant to be.

How would you concinve players there won´t be another any new wipe in the future?
I doubt anyone will believe you.

Well maybe I am challenged to give it a new try, but I doubt I have the patience and time to grind to 50 again, as I am no longer a student^^

Best to you all
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Postby syreal » Jan 25, 2014 22:57

Murax wrote:Well, long time no see.

I just stumbeld upon this News and I hardly could believe it.
Although I do understand that such step is kind of needed - I dont believe this is a correct way to do it.

Why?

Just give it 3 Month and there are 1-5 new SG´s with the same advantages and superior Realm Rank the old player base has now.
What you win with that?
Its just how Daoc is meant to be.

How would you concinve players there won´t be another any new wipe in the future?
I doubt anyone will believe you.

Well maybe I am challenged to give it a new try, but I doubt I have the patience and time to grind to 50 again, as I am no longer a student^^

Best to you all
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Just good words in my eyes! I think so too. Will be hard to believe in someone who did something like that. But it would be a honor for me to find out.

What about a man, a team, that sacrificed so many time to a project.
Imagine how it must feel, to see this Project running against the wall this way. For a community like this?
People that participate from this server until the last day just to take the first boat to leave.
Seeing Uthgard alive again .. even after a complete wipe... doors open for everyone would only show us all that Blue and his Fellows have harder Nuts than everyone of us!

Thanks Guys!
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Postby Melodexx » Jan 25, 2014 22:58

Murax wrote:Well, long time no see.

I just stumbeld upon this News and I hardly could believe it.
Although I do understand that such step is kind of needed - I dont believe this is a correct way to do it.

Why?

Just give it 3 Month and there are 1-5 new SG´s with the same advantages and superior Realm Rank the old player base has now.
What you win with that?
Its just how Daoc is meant to be.

How would you concinve players there won´t be another any new wipe in the future?
I doubt anyone will believe you.

Well maybe I am challenged to give it a new try, but I doubt I have the patience and time to grind to 50 again, as I am no longer a student^^

Best to you all
Murax


Sounds like they just want to fake ''origins''
i dont care about a big wipe if it helps the community.. but i doubt it since the staff werent able to do anything the last years.

the frontiers are still crap unloved created even its livelike..

ignorance 4tw i just can say :D

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Postby Harkon » Jan 25, 2014 23:03

wow.. the last of stupid decisions... seems like you really dont want a server with players

i dont want to read the whole thread, i dont want to get upset, its senseless trying to change blues ignorant (sorry to say) way of thinking

just a bit brainstorming for the screamers and maybe a gm with open mind:

- past has proven, every new server has a hype, this lasts a few weeks until the casuals and not so good players realize, that grass isnt greener on the other side. Means they will get farmed on Originins as well as on Uthgard, good guildgroups will always dominate the Daoc RvR, no matter if they are low or high rr.

- i dont care of the rr, make a rr wipe, its fine for me and our guild, we are not old, in 1 year half of us will be rr11 again but if you wipe the chars and crafters, i will move on to origins too or stop playing. Wipe everything else if you want - rr, money, items, reskins - no problem, if you think it will help (it wont change anything, maybe a hype for a few weeks because "ladderreset" thats all) - but jesus christ, dont force the rvr interested people to level and skill crafters again.. thats nothing any newcomer cant achieve if he really wants.
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Postby Roby5869 » Jan 25, 2014 23:10

Premise: i'm a low RR and a casual player on mid.
I really enjoyed my time here anyway, doing Raids and PvE and some casual RvR.
Imho, i don't really mind so much having high rr around and not be able to survive in emain when they are around. It's the way the game is, and luckly this game offer many solutions for all kind of people, casual or professional players.
I remember the guild "Prime", they showed you all that rr is not what really matters in RvR grps, they could wipe out high rr being only rr4. What makes the difference is team work and ability to play the char, not the rank in itself.
Did you ever asked yourself why there such high rr around? The real answer is - Because they play better and deserve the rank they got - Because they put more effort in doing what they doing and got the price for it.
It's the way Daoc is, it's way life is. Many people, even in real life succed before others by determination and hard work, learning all the way and all the time how to use their tools and how to survive in an unfriendly enviroment. So, i don't really mind having them around. It would be a loss to loose them, for all of us.
Luckly Uthgard gives you a chance to do many more things, and not only PvE, i'm talking about RvR here. You can rol la soloer or you can do BGs and reroll to it again, or change realm and change completely your stile of playing.
Said that, i don't think a wipe will be the solution, rather will be the end of the server for good. And this is a great loss for all of us.
The policy of nerfing things because they were not "livelike" at the patch 1.69 is wrong. At that time nerfing had other priority, don't forget that you payed for your account and keeping ppl longer on the server meant more income for staff. Now is not like that, uthgard should keep this in mind, nerfing now is not the solution, is possibly the dead line of this server and last few months were the living prove of it. Ppl started to leave after some of these nerfing, population started to drop long before the arrival of Origin.
My suggestion is only one: Make life easier for all players, no wonderful solutions or complicated ones, only make life easier for all, bring back the fun!!
But keep going as you did, and forget all whining. If ppl complains for high rr, tell them this. They worked longer to achieve it why should i take it away?
I surely be back to try new uthgard 2.0. I can't say now if i stay on it, i can't say now if a would like it, depends on how i like it or not.
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Postby Foneb » Jan 25, 2014 23:14

Harkon wrote:wow.. the last of stupid decisions... seems like you really dont want a server with players

i dont want to read the whole thread, i dont want to get upset, its senseless trying to change blues ignorant (sorry to say) way of thinking

just a bit brainstorming for the screamers and maybe a gm with open mind:

- past has proven, every new server has a hype, this lasts a few weeks until the casuals and not so good players realize, that grass isnt greener on the other side. Means they will get farmed on Originins as well as on Uthgard, good guildgroups will always dominate the Daoc RvR, no matter if they are low or high rr.

- i dont care of the rr, make a rr wipe, its fine for me and our guild, we are not old, in 1 year half of us will be rr11 again but if you wipe the chars and crafters, i will move on to origins too or stop playing. Wipe everything else if you want - rr, money, items, reskins - no problem, if you think it will help (it wont change anything, maybe a hype for a few weeks because "ladderreset" thats all) - but jesus christ, dont force the rvr interested people to level and skill crafters again.. thats nothing any newcomer cant achieve if he really wants.


this. plus the thing that even if you cN create the same char again and level him to 50 it looaes the bound you have with that char. wipe everybody naked and wipe rr. enough of a fresh start (plus you can make xp x 10 for the first month so new guys are able to catch up ina day) but a removal of the chars would drive me personal away since i would loose any bound i have with uthgard.
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Postby Aerewyn » Jan 25, 2014 23:16

if they try to copy origins, they will fail. Origins will eventually have the same problems that Uthgard has now. Simply making the game old isn't going to solve anything, and that's all Origins has accomplished. Back in 2003, we ****** about plenty of other things, like overpowered RAs, and people would would wait on their RA timers to be up for every fight. A simple server wipe isn't going to fix anything either, the problem of high ranks dominating low ranks is going to continue because people will level back up.

My opinion is that they need to take some modern ideas (current live is the best balanced RvR you will find, most balance issues are fixed) and mix what was done right in old daoc and what's done right in new daoc and make the game better. Finally, they need to not force people to RvR. Deleting Thidranki so that 40+ players would be forced to go get farmed was a huge mistake, and I think they know this. What they need to do, is make people /want/ to go to the frontier. If players want to reroll and hide in BGs, let them. In the meantime, they are forming xp groups and helping players who may eventually wish to play with the big boys.
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Postby Nef Melody » Jan 25, 2014 23:19

Please don't make us exp again, I share Harkons opinion. RR,Item,Money wipe. Free Epic for every lvl 50 char.
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Postby Raggnar » Jan 25, 2014 23:20

Harkon wrote:wow.. the last of stupid decisions... seems like you really dont want a server with players

i dont want to read the whole thread, i dont want to get upset, its senseless trying to change blues ignorant (sorry to say) way of thinking

just a bit brainstorming for the screamers and maybe a gm with open mind:

- past has proven, every new server has a hype, this lasts a few weeks until the casuals and not so good players realize, that grass isnt greener on the other side. Means they will get farmed on Originins as well as on Uthgard, good guildgroups will always dominate the Daoc RvR, no matter if they are low or high rr.

- i dont care of the rr, make a rr wipe, its fine for me and our guild, we are not old, in 1 year half of us will be rr11 again but if you wipe the chars and crafters, i will move on to origins too or stop playing. Wipe everything else if you want - rr, money, items, reskins - no problem, if you think it will help (it wont change anything, maybe a hype for a few weeks because "ladderreset" thats all) - but jesus christ, dont force the rvr interested people to level and skill crafters again.. thats nothing any newcomer cant achieve if he really wants.


You're a smart guy Harkon and a great player. It was a pleasure playing against you(although 99% of the time I got farmed xD). You are absolutely right on all points, but you know what the problem is? New server came out, uthgard GM's got panicked and their minds could not even comprehend the logic that players will return to uthgard, that trying out origins does not mean they are quitting uthgard. Further more, they have failed to understand that if you wanna do rvr, you will do it. You will not look for excuses in other people's higher rr(nature of daoc), their tons of plats and reskins(that have little or no effect on rvr) or what not...you will go out, die, die, die...learn, get some nice fights and challenge yourself + progress over time.

So uthgard staff made a hasty and dumb decision trying to get some players back, not realizing that only players they will get back with such a move are the people that will quit as soon as they get rolled few times in emain and leave DAOC or uthgard for good once they got bored or some other game/server offers more cookies. They gave in to whiners and people with no backbone, while they ignored common sense and suggestions from players that love uthgard and would have stayed loyal to it in both good and bad times. Then they came up with this half-ass excuse how they were discussing this over a longer period of time(although you can see posts on forum of them actively planning new stuff just few weeks ago and saying uthgard will never have a wipe). So yeah, I've pretty much lost all respect for them...it's pathetic, cowardly and above all stupid to cave in to whiners + be afraid of a buggy server that will never ever keep players that want real DAOC. By doing this, they've done origins the biggest favor ever.

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Blue, my advice for the next launch of uthgard. Listen to suggestions from other staff members, but at the end of the day you're the boss. You have no authority over these people and then you take it out on players. Kick Abydos and Trishin, get more people like Rajnish(sadly he left the server) and one day you might have a decent server. You're not a bad guy, but you need to get liquored up, go to a whorehouse, survive a trip to the wilderness with only a knife at your side and maybe then your testosterone levels will rise enough to control your minions. While the whorehouse and the drinking parts are primitive, for some people they are a necessity to wake up the inner beast, sadly.
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Postby Panzer » Jan 25, 2014 23:25

The way YOU have managed this server...........and now this?

The higher RR we have raised, the lower your IQ has sunken.

Dont expect me back, being at a server ruled by retards, dont think so. Over and OUT!

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Postby Bellatrix » Jan 25, 2014 23:32

As Rinnegati GM I can officially say that we won't come back.
You can remove all our RPS, but if you'll delete our characters we'll never come back.

You'll lose all the credibility you gained in last 11 years with this wipe. We'll do our best to make all the players, that might have an idea to come back here, not to.
And trust me, it will be very easy. On monday 27th at 01:00 you'll lose 20 players that togheter will make you lose hundreds more.
History should teach you that after a wipe there's.. nothing! People will lose interest in playing in a server that has had a wipe, and you'll even lose more desire in working on such project. All of this will bring you down and it's all because of you and your wrong decisions.

In any case, thanks for all, we had a great time here

Regards,
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Postby syreal » Jan 25, 2014 23:34

Panzer wrote:The way YOU have managed this server...........and now this?

The higher RR we have raised, the lower your IQ has sunken.

Dont expect me back, being at a server ruled by retards, dont think so. Over and OUT!


ROFL

I bet you don´t even know what IQ means.

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Postby Panzer » Jan 25, 2014 23:36

syreal wrote:
Panzer wrote:The way YOU have managed this server...........and now this?

The higher RR we have raised, the lower your IQ has sunken.

Dont expect me back, being at a server ruled by retards, dont think so. Over and OUT!


ROFL

I bet you don´t even know what IQ means.


Why dont you go f u c k yourself you idiot?

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