halbaag2 wrote: .... is absolutely no reason for us to come back for uthgard 2.0, no matter what changes are implemented. This is a fact and therefore uthgard must stay gone for good.

such destructive ... am i right or not?

I too am hard-pressed to see how a wipe will help and bear in mind that I will essentially lose nothing. The big issues are not so much between haves and have-nots but relate to A) how much fun the average player gets out of playing on Uthgard and B) the difficulty in becoming a have.

Regarding (A), I think the key is to back away from an arbitrary commitment to 1.69. If a customization makes sense and improves the game experience for the vast majority of players, it's a good customization. I think you can count hasteners, barrels, and modifications to drop and XP rates in this category. People are far more committed to having fun than playing a "pure" setting. In this light, it is not hard to see why people are excited about Origins.

As for (B), I recommend customizations that make it easier to get into OF RvR. Some ideas that come to mind relate to XP -- I personally like an increase in XP rewards linked to grouping rather than an across-the-board increase -- and gear (as I noted here http://uthgard.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=33160&p=326145).

I think it is very dangerous to penalize your veteran players with a wipe and, whatever your stated commitment to never doing it again, you will unnecessarily create a suspicion that Uthgard's staff is comfortable with a "nuclear option" whenever things get challenging. Clearly, the staff recognizes that the server needs some strong medicine. With a willingness to make deep changes and an openness to player feedback, Uthgard can be a healthy freeshard without a reboot.

What about creating a player council to elicit feedback? Everyone with a certain number of hours /played could participate in a closed forum to discuss the way ahead. I strongly recommend against any major changes without weighing all your options carefully, in any case.

on the one hand i am really happy that you finally get the slap for your capriciousness and the fu cking off of the community over the years! on the ohter hand im really sad that i lose all my chars now and to lose a constant server, youre now not any better than any other freeshard hosters that wipe their servers every few month.

i would really appreciate if you are going to come back with a functional server but to be honest i dont think the community is coming back after your fu cked them up like this.

"the majority said wipe the server" lol yeah sure the majority is 1 post forum accs or what? are you insane?

The Cross realm has always made uthgard feel different from a classic server and this really was the turning point for origins. Origins is by no means a great server, they have many mistakes but their Idea's are golden and should be taken into consideration.

The 1 realm 1 account is just Gold, it brings back a sense of realm pride and really brings together the realms. I always hated the fact that someone who was a Hib nut could play alb then announce everything that was going on to hib Via loging back over. Sure you might say that they could use Forums, IRC, or TS.... but It was mostly in game. Make cross realm a ban offense. This would be a big step in the right direction because being able to Play every realm is custom and Needs to go. If this change is made many players from live maybe even more then now will come over. One realm one account, We will call it Uthgard Awakens!

I 100% agree with that...

Blue
It's done when it's done.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something
is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."

Blue, this is your signature. Do you not believe this? THIS is what you abandon if you do a complete wipe.

OMG

This is RL at its best. N.I.M.B.Y.´s (not in my Backyard) like many of you guys make/made this world like it is today. Full of ignorant people that try to get the bigest part of the Cake for their own, without paying the price.
Why didn´t u build your real life character first before u started to create tons of Avatars u are trying to hide behind.

I knew it. I´ve allways been surrounded by .......

Adianne wrote:Blue
It's done when it's done.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something
is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."

Blue, this is your signature. Do you not believe this? THIS is what you abandon if you do a complete wipe.

I disagree. A server wipe is probably the hardest road the staff and players can take. But it might turn out to be the most promising as well. Who knows?

Are bolts and bugs going to work? What a fail revamping the server now when just origins appears...so sad...

13 lvl 50ies and all crafter leg in alb some rr 7 and 6. Ive deleted my minstrel a year ago at 8l4, my inf at 7l1 and my fria at 6l2 but i came back to uthgard because ist just the best Daoc Server / Game. Ive started here in the early 2008 THANKS for 6 years heaps of fun! I'm sure i'm on again when the clean Uthgard 2.0 starts again.

Cheers

Bogged wrote:13 lvl 50ies and all crafter leg in alb some rr 7 and 6. Ive deleted my minstrel a year ago at 8l4, my inf at 7l1 and my fria at 6l2 but i came back to uthgard because ist just the best Daoc Server / Game. Ive started here in the early 2008 THANKS for 6 years heaps of fun! I'm sure i'm on again when the clean Uthgard 2.0 starts again.

Cheers

Reads like you did alot of stuff you didnt like, so why did you xp 13 chars and made all leg, if you didnt enjoy it?
No one needs a leg crafter to compete in RvR or 13 chars.
You need 1-2 chars, maybe 15 platin and you are done for RvR the next 10 years.

Why the population decrease ?
=> because casual player didnt wanna come in frontier because of high ranking fix group

did the wipe solve the ?
=> yes in short-term/middle term, but it dont solve the main problem , casual player will not come back in frontier on long term.

How to solve the problem ?
Make an infinite battleground (rp off, xp off) on ONE battleground for the casual gamer, let the other high ranking player on frontier.

Bogged wrote:13 lvl 50ies and all crafter leg in alb some rr 7 and 6. Ive deleted my minstrel a year ago at 8l4, my inf at 7l1 and my fria at 6l2 but i came back to uthgard because ist just the best Daoc Server / Game. Ive started here in the early 2008 THANKS for 6 years heaps of fun! I'm sure i'm on again when the clean Uthgard 2.0 starts again.

Cheers

changed your mind in like ~8hours?

Celteen wrote:

Bogged wrote:13 lvl 50ies and all crafter leg in alb some rr 7 and 6. Ive deleted my minstrel a year ago at 8l4, my inf at 7l1 and my fria at 6l2 but i came back to uthgard because ist just the best Daoc Server / Game. Ive started here in the early 2008 THANKS for 6 years heaps of fun! I'm sure i'm on again when the clean Uthgard 2.0 starts again.

Cheers

Reads like you did alot of stuff you didnt like, so why did you xp 13 chars and made all leg, if you didnt enjoy it?
No one needs a leg crafter to compete in RvR or 13 chars.
You need 1-2 chars, maybe 15 platin and you are done for RvR the next 10 years.

Maybe some people play this game like they draw a Mandala, just to destroy it with one motion after they finished?
But some just do it because everyone does it!
Some RvR, some don´t. Some wear big trophy´s to polish their profile, some just polish their profile neurosis

Adianne wrote:Blue
It's done when it's done.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something
is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."

Blue, this is your signature. Do you not believe this? THIS is what you abandon if you do a complete wipe.

yeah staff giving up ****** me off so much

Lets all support Uthgard bi giving a lil donation for all this great works to bring people back please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!