Interesting and never say never... lol

Skarz wrote:A fresh start on an Extremely stable server u know isnt gonna go anywhere. heres the dream and im happy this day has finaly come.

Yes but run by the same people.

I have a feeling that if Origins goes down it will be business as usual. Nerf Nerf Nerf ignore ignore ignore.

People practically begged for YEARS for something as simple as a port for hibs to get to emain faster. It took the devs all of one afternoon to implement this but they did it as a last desperate measure, not because players had asked so long for it.

Is anyone else ****** that uthalis is gone? ^^

Perhaps Origins will provide the wakeup call that's needed for the GMs. I understand that people don't want to lose what they worked for, but at the same time you have to acknowledge that there was a problem with RvR here. It was simply too unbalanced between the haves and the have nots. They had to do something to address the balance of power between the high ranks and the non high ranks.

What would you prefer as a solution? RP wipe? or perhaps giving everyone RP level ups so they can buy RAs and compete? I'd have loved for the GMs here to just give me the RPs I earned on my live sorc (11L4) and my other higher rank toons. Would anyone have liked that solution? Giving people their live toon RP totals would certainly make more powerful people, but wouldnt fix the imbalance.

Something needs to be done. Hopefully, the GMs here will learn from their mistakes and fix the imbalances between high ranks and low ranks. if not, the this problem will be back in a few short years. My hope is that the GMs here quit trying to emulate a certain time in DAOC, and implement the most balanced and fun custom server that they can by implementing what was done right in the old days, and what's done right in live today (balance) to make the best daoc experience available anywhere.

You should leave the forums running though, Aust might go crazy with no forums to troll.

Aerewyn wrote:Perhaps Origins will provide the wakeup call that's needed for the GMs. I understand that people don't want to lose what they worked for, but at the same time you have to acknowledge that there was a problem with RvR here. It was simply too unbalanced between the haves and the have nots. They had to do something to address the balance of power between the high ranks and the non high ranks.

What would you prefer as a solution? RP wipe? or perhaps giving everyone RP level ups so they can buy RAs and compete? I'd have loved for the GMs here to just give me the RPs I earned on my live sorc (11L4) and my other higher rank toons. Would anyone have liked that solution? Giving people their live toon RP totals would certainly make more powerful people, but wouldnt fix the imbalance.

Something needs to be done. Hopefully, the GMs here will learn from their mistakes and fix the imbalances between high ranks and low ranks. if not, the this problem will be back in a few short years. My hope is that the GMs here quit trying to emulate a certain time in DAOC, and implement the most balanced and fun custom server that they can by implementing what was done right in the old days, and what's done right in live today (balance) to make the best daoc experience available anywhere.

Define balanced. People that are skilled and want to do rvr will do it, people that log after 1 wipe will still do it. If at least 2-3 set groups stay on uthgard, they will farm these guys worse than ever, because this time they will want RR's, unlike now on rr10-11 when they don't care and just kill someone purely cause they've inced them. DAOC is a game that will always have high and low rr players, and that's normal. This "GAP" everyone is speaking of is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I've said it like 10 times, and I'll say it again. If 3x rr4 groups in each realm just went to frontiers to rvr, they would die to stronger groups but they would have some fights among themselves. In time, they would grow in rr and improve their skill and team play. But people that qq about rr gap don't want to rvr and they will be farmed by rr5 people that won't even dump any RA's. I just wonder what will their excuse be then.

I'm shocked... I didn't expect the server to be shut down, I only expected a few events to be implemented to pull players away from Origins. This is either a REALLY good move in a positive direction for Uthgard (depending on if people are willing to relevel their characters... which I doubt), or a horribly excessive move that will put the server in a casket (which I'm leaning towards). Either way, it's been a good run and thank you staff for providing us with quality entertainment for these long wonderful years. I do hope you will reconsider your decision because I feel a server wipe WILL drive a lot of folks away and bring back few.

You should just try top merge with Origins and be 1 big server ! i dont see the point of competion over here !? You guyz are acting like there is too many daoc player for 1 server ! In fact Origins bridn back NA players what you didnt do. Uthgard was 80% EU and origins is fairly 50/50 what brind around 1300+ peak hours and even more when you will put the new server on.

It's gonnabe a lot better for the community if you merge your team to origins. Origins have a lot of bug but it bring something back to players. And it brind lot of live player to freeshard.

I dont see the point here to start fresh. If you think origins is only a FotM ! You are totally wrong. I take time to level. Not month but weeks for casual and days for hardcore player what is really great.

I totally understand how you can feel right know but i think you need to learn from your player and what they have to say.

You guys asking for a wipe don't get it at all. I started here just like all of you. Yes, I had SOME advantages you don't, and there are lots of ways to get some of those back, but you seem to forget that I also missed out on TONS of stuff prior to me. The same goes for ALL higher RR players.

Wiping the server will make it easier for new players for a few months to a year. Then what? What happens when the players that want to spend 8-10 hours a day get high RR again and just begin the process anew? Another server wipe? Sorry, but I said in another of my previous posts... Addition by subtraction is not the answer. As a matter of fact we have plenty of proof of that statement. Why did people leave? We lost barrels. We lost /xp off. We lost % of rp's even when dead. We lost Tajendi. We lost BG's. We lost cure disease for wardens. We lost hastners. We lost spots to farm easy cash.

We lost, we lost, we lost, and at the end we lost players. All of that got us here today. Now they want to lose the people that stuck it out through all that and say, "My bad guys, lets try this again..." Makes a lot of sense...

Bmber wrote:You should just try top merge with Origins and be 1 big server ! i dont see the point of competion over here !? You guyz are acting like there is too many daoc player for 1 server ! In fact Origins bridn back NA players what you didnt do. Uthgard was 80% EU and origins is fairly 50/50 what brind around 1300+ peak hours and even more when you will put the new server on.

It's gonnabe a lot better for the community if you merge your team to origins. Origins have a lot of bug but it bring something back to players. And it brind lot of live player to freeshard.

I dont see the point here to start fresh. If you think origins is only a FotM ! You are totally wrong. I take time to level. Not month but weeks for casual and days for hardcore player what is really great.

I totally understand how you can feel right know but i think you need to learn from your player and what they have to say.

WOOT this idea is so great lets make 1 big server like this we gonna have such bad decision + Lags :p

Staff, please.. I'm begging you.. do NOT wipe the server! Just because Origins offers a fresh start doesn't mean Uthgard has to! You will just annoy 90% of the player base who have houses, guilds, alts, etc. DO NOT wipe the server. If you do, you'll lose your player base for good.

Think of how Warhammer online tried to copy WoW's success of instanced PvP zones with two factions... Did they succeed? No. At the end of the day, the game bombed because WoW already filled that niche. Copying Origins is NOT the answer. Adding incentives to play on Uthgard IS the answer.

I only played here a couple weeks, but I have something to say about this.

It makes no sense to me that somehow nerfing certain items would be too drastic but wiping every character is not. It's no more fair to make everyone start over across the board, because some have invested significantly more time than others.

Wiping every character solves nothing. Assuming the server survives such an event, eventually certain players will pull ahead in rank. Those players will form clicks and run together, and you'll end up with the exact same problem. Then will it be a twice in a lifetime event? Slippery slope?

Wiping every character deters new players from playing your server. There is no bigger deterrent to spending hours and hours building up a character than the thought that the admins of the server might decide to erase it.

Everyone seems to want SI. I don't know why. I'd rather just /level 50 than pbae+alt lfg in modernagrav. It cuts the population density in half (2x the zones for the same number of players). And since Origins is starting to get going, now you have multiple servers with similar rule-sets to slice up a small pie even further.

I am all for making hard decisions to bring about balance, but rewarding your player base's loyalty with a total wipe doesn't seem like a prudent choice.

-Spamsurfer

I have a few mid rr chars which would suck to lose, but as i have found RVR getting boring, i hope this will help things. I'm fine with this and looking forward to starting over with everyone on the same playing field. I hope you can get OLD RAs out before restarting the server.

Good Luck Uthgard Staff.
Will be waiting.

all i see is overreaction and frustration. you dont hurt people like me with 30 million rps, ive got my playerbase myself and so do many others...ull hurt the people that spend their 5 hours a week on this server for years achieving the goal that they felt protected by your servers policy for so long...gratz uthgard staff

I spent 4-5 years on live Servers and it's just fckd up.

I was playing here since at least 2008 thought.

Just go for the wipe - what can I use my XXX Plats, toons and Chars for on an empty server?

I really appreciate your decision IF your closure comes with a wipe.

Thanks for some great times here on (old) Uthgard - "nf emain only - Agramon - Tajendi'.

Best regards,
Chrissi