I love solo play so I know I need a stealthier class, but I can't decide which class I'll like better when RA's are changed.

On the one hand you've got scouts getting camouflage which will make them unkillable every 15 or 30 minutes (can't remember which) and improved slam times / less purging, but you also lose falcon's eye damage and physical defense to save you from high hitting assassins.

On the other hand you have infiltrators gaining access to vanish when all other stealthers will lose it and they will keep their great front load damage, but they will lose viper 3.

What do you guys think

Hibernianman1 wrote:I love solo play so I know I need a stealthier class, but I can't decide which class I'll like better when RA's are changed.

On the one hand you've got scouts getting camouflage which will make them unkillable every 15 or 30 minutes (can't remember which) and improved slam times / less purging, but you also lose falcon's eye damage and physical defense to save you from high hitting assassins.

On the other hand you have infiltrators gaining access to vanish when all other stealthers will lose it and they will keep their great front load damage, but they will lose viper 3.

What do you guys think

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If it was 1.68 I would prolly lean to infiltrator with a 9 second evade stun. However, since we are 1 patch beyond that, I have to say nightshade. Avoid Pain + Viper is just too strong. And with AP on a 15 minute re-use timer, you get a lot more uses by juggling that with Viper than say for example an infiltrator can get by using Vanish to PA mid fight (and likely have to burn purge as well to keep a DoT tick from ruining the PA).

People say that Ranger will be weak in Old RA, but I don't agree. With self buffs, Camo, 100% IP, AP, not ever having to face a viper assasin, plus the ability to open up from range (even with less than sniper spec) with the use of True Sight Rangers will be quite playable. You are just prone to eating from stealth openers if you hang out in the wrong place without camo or TS up. So dont do that

Stealthers with old RAs will be all about passive RAs. Noone cares about your 30 min reuse viper.

Force wrote:nfiltrator with a 9 second evade stun.

Thing is even with the 9 second stun purge took care of it. With low population you will be fighting with a low of RAs up.

What an Inf can do is when fighting a NS if they use viper you purge/vanish and run away. Very lame but hey viper down.

svperstar wrote:
Thing is even with the 9 second stun purge took care of it. With low population you will be fighting with a low of RAs up.

Anyone that timer camps a 30 minute RUT is an idiot. Besides, vanish is 30 minutes as well, so you can counter with that if action is that slow, and you know they're not coming back until purge is back up.

svperstar wrote:What an Inf can do is when fighting a NS if they use viper you purge/vanish and run away. Very lame but hey viper down.

Using two 30 minute RUTs to counter one 30 minute RUT. The NS still has his 15 minute RUT iwin with Avoid Pain, as well as purge, so if the inf re engages before the NS has viper back up, he is still at a disadvantage. Might be better off trying to counter with purge + vanish + PA.

Runis wrote:Stealthers with old RAs will be all about passive RAs. Noone cares about your 30 min reuse viper.

What nonesense. 30 minute RUT viper, 30 minute RUT purge, 15 minute RUT AP. Looks like plenty of actives for the pace of the solo game on uthgard. And passives are not so expensive that you can't have them as well.

Force wrote:Anyone that timer camps a 30 minute RUT is an idiot.

Hey people already wait for 10 minutes. Many archers go hide till camo/IP is back up as is. I think it will be the same with Old RA

Runis wrote:Stealthers with old RAs will be all about passive RAs. Noone cares about your 30 min reuse viper.

I agree with u except for NS with AP wich will be win button against any other assassin every 15 min. All archers will also rely on actives as they have good ones compared to assassins and need them to counter see hidden / PA.

Which classes have access to avoid pain?? All archers and assassins?

Just NS, Ranger, and Hunter as far as I can see.

Minstrel too and some hybrid classes.... not sure about fulltanks