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Think before you roll (1.69)

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Xedie Eagle Knight Posts: 736 Joined: Nov 20, 2010 04:28	Reply with quote by Xedie » Dec 03, 2013 14:08 realac0 wrote: Kavarn wrote:Get lw2 or 3 on Tank classes and you would be fine with your endu 3 or 4 pots. Lw 1 and endu 3 might be enough for all support and caster classes, but for sure it's not enough for a reaver. and armsmans? i don't think are enough too ... expecially against very good grp's with bards & shamans providing free endo5 all time ... for support and caster classes i agree, prolly endo4 (not 3 at all) is sufficient combined with lw2. but maybe i'am wrong. We already ran pretty successfull only using an armsman. But to be fair it should be mentioned that we were a caster heavy grp. Nonetheless you don't need to rely on the endu chant, not even as a tank group. A good grp will simply chain cc the paladin after det is gone, so he won't provide anything to the fight besides his endurance chant. And even then most of your group members will be out endu range soon anyway given the fact that the paladin is cc'd. It's sad, but it is like this. Paladin is already the weakest deftank - for a castergrp I'd suggest to take an arms over an paladin even nowadays - and with old ra's well... rip my beloved endubots

Byun Gryphon Knight Posts: 243 Joined: Dec 13, 2012 15:25	Reply with quote by Byun » Dec 03, 2013 17:01 Xedie wrote:A good grp will simply chain cc the paladin after det is gone, so he won't provide anything to the fight besides his endurance chant. And even then most of your group members will be out endu range soon anyway given the fact that the paladin is cc'd. It's sad, but it is like this. Paladin is already the weakest deftank - for a castergrp I'd suggest to take an arms over an paladin even nowadays - and with old ra's well... rip my beloved endubots Yes very unfortunate Caster/Supporter need Endu3 + LW1 for the fights. They burn endu while casting too, but it isnt like they are running all the fight. Armsmen need Endu4 pots and at least lw2, otherwise they run out of endu way too fast. Good offtanks won't have any problems without permanent endu5 running. They should use endu reg pots anyways, because paladins weren't able to provide endu for them in the whole fight with the amazing 1k chant range Hibs/Mids have an advantage in terms of costs. Beside that i'd even say that Albs are in a better position, because now the deftank deals damage too and it is possible to take out overextending offtanks on your own.

majky666 Phoenix Knight Posts: 1470 Joined: Feb 10, 2010 01:00	Reply with quote by majky666 » Dec 03, 2013 18:58 Old Ras are not good news for my reaver too, I liked play him Still have merc on 49lvl and temped, but Dont think I will return and play on Uthgard anymore (yes I told it once in the past).

Hibernianman1 Gryphon Knight Posts: 260 Joined: Jun 06, 2012 23:29	Reply with quote by Hibernianman1 » Dec 04, 2013 06:09 Byun wrote: Yes very unfortunate Caster/Supporter need Endu3 + LW1 for the fights. They burn endu while casting too, but it isnt like they are running all the fight. Armsmen need Endu4 pots and at least lw2, otherwise they run out of endu way too fast. Good offtanks won't have any problems without permanent endu5 running. They should use endu reg pots anyways, because paladins weren't able to provide endu for them in the whole fight with the amazing 1k chant range Hibs/Mids have an advantage in terms of costs. Beside that i'd even say that Albs are in a better position, because now the deftank deals damage too and it is possible to take out overextending offtanks on your own. And this is why I'll roll armsman with polearm/shield instead of paladin. Thanks Byun!!

Totenmond Warder Posts: 28 Joined: Dec 03, 2013 16:21 Location: Germany	Reply with quote by Totenmond » Dec 09, 2013 23:42 Ok I didnt want to create a new thread so I do ask here, because I am thinking before rolling Do Mercs on Uthgard spec 42 in shield? Seriously? Would a 50/50 spec without shield be to weak for grp rvr?

Austerim Alerion Knight Posts: 2743 Joined: Dec 15, 2010 16:27	Reply with quote by Austerim » Dec 09, 2013 23:56 Totenmond wrote:Ok I didnt want to create a new thread so I do ask here, because I am thinking before rolling Do Mercs on Uthgard spec 42 in shield? Seriously? Would a 50/50 spec without shield be to weak for grp rvr? All Mercs spec 42 Shield. It offers a lot more utility than going 50 weapon would. If you AT as Crush until 48 you can do 39 weapon 42 Shield 50 DW rest into Parry or if you enjoy switching weapons, 29/29 Thrust/Slash 42 Shield 50 DW rest into Parry but I'm not sure that's possible anymore with Tajendi removed. [3:10pm] <myrmidon^> You have to be a c*** to be awesome at daoc [3:10pm] <myrmidon^> that's what I learnt [3:11pm] <Frosty_> then why does austerim suck lordgriffon wrote:Oh by the way... ever seen a group of 8 smite clerics? Or play against a group like that? I have. Absolute devastation. The group that runs up against them can't kill them fast enough because smite clerics have sooooooo many tools at their disposal combined with decent ranged damage with 8 of them dudes doing it!

Force Phoenix Knight Posts: 1569 Joined: Oct 22, 2009 00:00	Reply with quote by Force » Dec 10, 2013 01:38 Austerim wrote: 29/29 Thrust/Slash 42 Shield 50 DW rest into Parry but I'm not sure that's possible anymore with Tajendi removed. Should be doable if you can get a couple Dragon Rings.

Totenmond Warder Posts: 28 Joined: Dec 03, 2013 16:21 Location: Germany	Reply with quote by Totenmond » Dec 10, 2013 12:57 Ok thank you guys, that will hold me from rolling a merc.