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Hibernianman1
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Postby Hibernianman1 » Nov 27, 2013 03:30

A lot of changes coming up that will DRASTICALLY affect class balance. I am going to wait until the changes are all presented before I roll any new characters to be sure I am making the decision and time investment that i REALLY want. Thoughts?

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Postby epo » Nov 27, 2013 03:46

roll what you want. there will always be fotm just like on live, just more pretendable
holsten-knight wrote:Just get over it, reach high rr and look at all high rr caster prior to this change as unworthy and laugh about them. :wink:


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Postby pweet » Nov 27, 2013 04:55

I would wait till Old RAs, since noone will know if Reaver might rock then! :wall: :wall:
Cmon you know that there are basic classes which will never be consiered useless...
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Postby Nef Melody » Nov 27, 2013 07:35

just dont roll reaver,thane,warden,champ or vw and you'll be safe
probably no archers too, forgot paladin :P
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Postby Panzer » Nov 27, 2013 09:47

Yeah, archers....and I, the Fool, who went for Hunter, what the hell..... :wall:

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Postby Kiksens » Nov 27, 2013 12:06

Nef Melody wrote:just dont roll reaver,thane,warden,champ or vw and you'll be safe
probably no archers too, forgot paladin :P


And skald.

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Postby Nef Melody » Nov 27, 2013 12:09

Kiksens wrote:
Nef Melody wrote:just dont roll reaver,thane,warden,champ or vw and you'll be safe
probably no archers too, forgot paladin :P


And skald.


Skalds are ok until old ra's come, and even with old ra's they don't fall off as much as the others above.
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Postby Sinoda » Nov 27, 2013 13:08

And maybe you will have 2 or more years fun before 1.69 comes here.

In a decent grp with ts, sc and level 50 you can play all these classes on uthgard and you still win fights, in bad grps it does not matter what you play and in pro grps you will never play.

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Postby Hibernianman1 » Nov 27, 2013 14:01

Thanks everyone for posting your thoughts. It seems that the general consensus is that Hybrid classes are going down the tube and the main healers/tanks/casters are unaffected. Am I wrong in this conclusion? CC is going to be incredibly powerful again so maybe I will make a sorcerer....

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realac0
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Postby realac0 » Nov 27, 2013 14:40

i agree be careful on choose char to roll, but roll now mean end up with a 4l2 toon, lot better than a 3lx when old ra's (and remove of Thid like we all know now) will be implemented.
Myself, i am thinking of roll armsman (because i like play def on alb) so i will prolly start soon.

for the rest, about paladins, on paper daoc is true can be totally replaced from armsmans and all the grp running with endo4 potions.

but, on the real daoc rvr, i want see every day, every night, ALL GRP'S RUNNING with tons of endo 4 potions ...

now only 1 grp (and not every day) is doing this, tomarrow, if no elite grp will want paladins, try to think at the spots for drop alchemy stuffs needed for craft endo4 potions ...

... will be camped 24/7 from farmers matter cabbies, than need to craft, to buy, to store on banks, to trade on every char of the grp, to buy, to sell etc etc ...

is not a problem of money, is problem of time/organization.

we all know what happen if a spot is already camped, maybe from a random that just want make some golds (selling it) ...

how can a grp be ALWAYS ready if everyone want buy it? there will always be a grp member with not all the potions needed for a night rvr, so what albs will do? from apk go to housing, pick horse, go to house buy potions, come back, trade to other chars etc etc ... or just a grp member log the farmer/alchemist char with 2000 potions stored on house banks for trade to other members?

well, all is possibile, but try to think how this impact the real rvr, grp forming, etc.

on paper is easy, but i am not sure paladins will be out so easy like all think ... endurance chant is too mutch core to lose.

last but not least, i expect albs will start run with mincers more, this mean 1 more demezzer (+ op old sos and good interrupt if well played). Will prolly end up with paladins put all ra's on block/lw and the heal grp instant ra (don't remember the name).
Sorcs/Mincers will demezz paladins, purge every 30 min will free from roots and, for the rest, enjoy real old style rvr (where cc's mean really somethinig and fights are win not only dumping all ra's up every 10 minutes).

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Imoep St0ned - 6l7 Paladin
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Drawstab Vol.2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDsCAMqZ ... e=youtu.be
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Postby Xedie » Nov 30, 2013 21:01

You can be pretty sure that most of the better groups won't play with a paladin anymore when old ra's kick in. Endu3 regpots (no mats to farm) + Instant endu is way better than having a nearly useless class in your grp! People will just arrange themselves to the new situation and have their inventory stocked up with those pots.
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Postby realac0 » Dec 02, 2013 10:44

maybe u'r right, will see after 2/3 mounths of old ra's (if will never come, ofc ^_^) 8)

... and about potions, u really think endo3 pots (normal crafted no need farm) + some full instant potion can give endo all the fight? mmmm ...

i've try some days ago run with reaver with endo4 potions. Mostly of the times, i was ooe for slam, levi etc (i'd say 60% of the times). Consider armsmans, that should replace paladins.
How can run all the fight (against good enemies) always sprinting, slamming around, snaring ... and maybe doing some dps, with a gimp endo3 potion?

prolly all will need lw2? (i have lw1 on my chars)

btw i am gimp, all know it, so u'r for sure right and i'am wrong ;)

will see
---------- UTHGARD 1.0 ------------
ALBION
Imeope 6l1 - Infiltrator
Imoep St0ned - 6l7 Paladin
Ellehn Thunderer - 7l0 Scout

HIBERNIA
Drawstab Boo <Rinnegati> - 9l0 Ranger
Realz <Rinnegati> - 6l3 Blademaster
----------------------------------------
Drawstab Vol.1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5mE6RQhRwA
Drawstab Vol.2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDsCAMqZ ... e=youtu.be
Paladin WTF http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FeY55eYiQI

... currently playing ESO

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Postby Kavarn » Dec 02, 2013 20:02

Get lw2 or 3 on Tank classes and you would be fine with your endu 3 or 4 pots.
Lw 1 and endu 3 might be enough for all support and caster classes, but for sure it's not enough for a reaver. :P
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realac0
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Postby realac0 » Dec 02, 2013 20:38

Kavarn wrote:Get lw2 or 3 on Tank classes and you would be fine with your endu 3 or 4 pots.
Lw 1 and endu 3 might be enough for all support and caster classes, but for sure it's not enough for a reaver. :P


and armsmans?

i don't think are enough too ... expecially against very good grp's with bards & shamans providing free endo5 all time ...

for support and caster classes i agree, prolly endo4 (not 3 at all) is sufficient combined with lw2.

but maybe i'am wrong.
---------- UTHGARD 1.0 ------------
ALBION
Imeope 6l1 - Infiltrator
Imoep St0ned - 6l7 Paladin
Ellehn Thunderer - 7l0 Scout

HIBERNIA
Drawstab Boo <Rinnegati> - 9l0 Ranger
Realz <Rinnegati> - 6l3 Blademaster
----------------------------------------
Drawstab Vol.1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5mE6RQhRwA
Drawstab Vol.2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDsCAMqZ ... e=youtu.be
Paladin WTF http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FeY55eYiQI

... currently playing ESO

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Postby majky666 » Dec 02, 2013 21:34

Weed smokers dont think before roll :P
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