If 100% live like allows you to poison other peoples weapons, but takes away your viper 3 count me in.

Technically it could Gynsu, but it would also eat up your Tajendi items, and you would only need 2 more rr dings to cap your NS.

I'd love for this server to be 1.69 in totality, but it isn't going to happen.

None of these custom changes bother me as they are now, I've learned to adapt. Maybe I would have perferred never to have Taj items but I guess it is an extra something to do.

oh really? all those "this custom changes don't bother me at all guys" would be the first to QQ about slow gameplay and how they will leave the server if it does not get changed back if all the timesink reductions get removed. (15 min port timer, no horse routes...)

I am pro some of the custom changes that speed up gameplay here. And of course the RR 13 custom change.
And the insta port is missing in the custom list... the only useful result that came from the player council

btw anyone up for buying some small shields that are still poisened? I still got a lot of shields with snare, str/con debuff, disease and DOT poison on them in my vault from before the... let's call it change.

if u equip them it is gone.

holsten-knight wrote:oh really? all those "this custom changes don't bother me at all guys" would be the first to QQ about slow gameplay and how they will leave the server if it does not get changed back if all the timesink reductions get removed. (15 min port timer, no horse routes...)

I am pro some of the custom changes that speed up gameplay here. And of course the RR 13 custom change.
And the insta port is missing in the custom list... the only useful result that came from the player council

btw anyone up for buying some small shields that are still poisened? I still got a lot of shields with snare, str/con debuff, disease and DOT poison on them in my vault from before the... let's call it change.

I think that was Sleepwel's whole point in making this thread. Pweet, Nayeh, and others seem to be banging the "live like" drum an awful lot lately so rather than continue to derail the mount thread he made a post here showing that if you truly want a live like server for 1.69 then you HAVE to take the bad with the good. You can't sit back and pick and choose which things you like and dont like based upon your own personal view of balance. At some point a line must be drawn in the sand as to what the server goal is. Blue has done a pretty good job of this. However, when you start using 2 VERY opposing views by trying to use "live like 1.69" on one end and "balance" on the other end we have problems. Never mind the issues that are already created when you use a patch setting that doesnt allow you to use the corresponding RA's.

You cant spout that this and that isnt live like at 1.69 then turn around and say that you dont want this other thing in since it causes to much imbalance. Honestly, I'm fine with the way things are now. I understand the frustrations with the mounts, but the same argument being used to remove mounts could be used to implement poisoning other peoples weapons. No matter what system you come up with we as gamers will find a way to abuse it to the best of our abilities. This is a certainty. Custom fix for Viper or PD? Sounds great, till now sombody points out that 5 minute purge is unfair. Then Wrath of Champions 3 is pointed out that it is WAY op'd for the settings. Then Charge 3 gets brought up, and this just goes on and on.

One last thing that you said Holsten that I loved was at the beginning. All of these people that are upset about these 'custom' changes will be the sames ones on here complaining about a lack of incoming and how long it takes to get back to action. I've seen it countless times on here. Zarkor comes to mind on the OF. Dude crusaded to get OF implemented because it was going to solve all of the servers problems. Now he wants custom OF or back to NF, and the rest of the population would give anything to try NF again if for no other reason then ports and more dynamic keep fights. Pleasing the community here is an impossible task equal to trying to count all the stars in the sky.

Clearly the only imbalanced NF RA in our setting was TWF.

RonELuvv wrote:
I think that was Sleepwel's whole point in making this thread. Pweet, Nayeh, and others seem to be banging the "live like" drum an awful lot lately so rather than continue to derail the mount thread he made a post here showing that if you truly want a live like server for 1.69 then you HAVE to take the bad with the good.

He made that thread just to get his silly mixing up point somehow proven for himself.
Some were dumb enough to jump on that train.
This thread is a sensless backdoor backdoor thread nothing else lol

Ok Celteen, then what exactly constitutes a fair, balanced, live like, 1.69 setting with NF RA's? Does that include horse routes? Does it take out Viper since there is no ToA bonus? Do you remove PD since there is no elemental dmg to counter it? Do you allow things like purge on a 5 minute timer when with the action the way it is you pretty much have it up every fight? There is a million and one things that come off as 'fair' to some and 'unfair' to others. If you want to use the 'live like' at 1.69 as a reason to remove or change something, then you also have to accept 'live like' 1.69 settings that are unbalanced as well. If you want to talk customization for a more balanced setting than that is fine, but you are opening up a pandora's box of problems. I'm glad you and others think you can do what EA and Mythic are still trying to do on a 12 year old game by making a balanced server, which will never exist.

Also, the reason this is a backdoor thread to the backdooring that occurred in the other thread is because you and pweet asked us to not pollute your mount thread. Listen, I cannot state this enough... I DONT CARE IF THEY TAKE OUT MOUNTS OR LEAVE THEM IN. What bothers me is when people, like Nayeh, say they want a 100% live like server except they dont want assassins to be able to poison weapons, they dont want 1 minute stun immunity for all stuns, they want horse routes but no mounts in RvR, and a bunch of other things that they hand pick and choose. This is not about mounts, its about me being tired of players trying to pick and choose a server setting that best matches their play style.

Have you ever noticed that 90% of the changes Nayeh suggests goes against solo play? Isnt it also weird how Nayeh has said on multiple occasions how he hates stealthers and the solo aspect of this game. Isn't that weird.... Meanwhile, the only changes I have been a part of on this server NEGATIVELY affected the classes I play actively (except the slam immunity which was not even brought up by me, but rather Harkon). I dont believe I've seen Nayeh post a single bug report or change that effected any class he plays in a negative way. This is what bothers me.

Now please dont pollute our thread here and backdoor our post. Heed your own advice and make up your own thread about this.

I find it amusing you dedicate so many forum posts to analyzing mine.

_Oglop_ wrote:I find it amusing you dedicate so many forum posts to analyzing mine.

A dedicated fan.

I don't read those weird wall of texts.
Live like is an empty custom list except port timers period.
Feel free to write another WoT about how that is connected to mounts PD viper stun-timers and hence everything should stay how it is.

Next time you come on a blog maybe you should actually read before you post...

Celteen wrote:Feel free to write another WoT about how that is connected to mounts and hence they should stay.

RonELuvv wrote: Listen, I cannot state this enough... I DONT CARE IF THEY TAKE OUT MOUNTS OR LEAVE THEM IN.

I love when people use the whole "I'm not going to read your wall of text..." defense. Why don't you just be honest and say you cant come up with an argument back. Nayeh, I attack you because you have not only personally attacked many of my threads but also because you are the most blatant person I know to only put forth changes that hurt play styles you don't like.

Celteen wrote:Feel free to write another WoT about how that is connected to mounts and hence they should stay.

Shall I post Nayeh's multiple WoT's about WHY mounts should be removed? Oh, those don't bother you I see. I guess its easier to read a WoT when you agree with it. Duly noted, anytime you post on a BLOG and I don't agree with you I will try to keep it to a 2 sentence minimum.

wtf i hit like instead of quote