Hi there,

my champ is rapidly moving towards level 50 and I need a little advice.

At level 46 atm i'm 42 shields/40 valor/6 blade/35 lw
I'm thinking about my level 50 specc.
a) 42 shield/50 valor/39 lw
Seems nice because of slam, red debuffs and red selfbuff....but the damage with the large weapon....i don't know..for me in thid at the moment I have the feeling it's a bit low.
b) 42 shield/50 lw/39 valor (or 49 lw and 40 valor for yellow dd and yellow s/c buff)
Would also be nice because of the way better lw damage I think. Is it worth to sacrifice the red debuffs for that?
c) 50 lw/50 valor/ rest in parry
All red buffs/debuffs, best lw damage...but no slam. But I really like the slam ^^ Don't know about that...I have the feeling that I would do a lot damage but can't kill anyone with a bubble because of the slow swing speed or because my slow hits get parried/blocked/evaded

Any hints on that topic? ^^

Furthermore I'd like some input on RA's.
At the moment I have IP1, ST1, WOC1 and Purge1 and some spare points.
Should I get det? Since champ has no stoicism, I think it's a waste of points...but without det...a single mezz is sooooo long ^^
Don't really know what I want to do with the champ when he hits 50. I think I almost never see any champs in group RvR, so I will probably run solo most of the time, so if I have det it doesn't really matter I think.
Would be great to get some input on this too ^^
Or some other hints which RA's to take

Hey there,

Tbh i'm leveling my first toon here on uthgard (alb side) so i'm not that much experienced about lvl 50 rvr on this server.

But i've been reading a lot of posts on the forum, and after considering levevling a champ or warden as my next toon, i've been definitely thinking about my spec.

Background : i hate soloing, so this character is designed to play in 8man group.
It seems you are totally right saying champions are not seen quite often in fg. I do think champions are not liked on uthgard because ppl think hero do a better job than him. But i think the champ has something else to provide.

Here are my thoughts :
I will play it either full damage/debuff - 50LW/50Valor or full def/debuff not sure about the accurate spec yet (or not willing to give it maybe :p)

1) With full damage i'll definitely take det 5 as long as new RAs are going on. Even w/o stoicism, it's a must have.
I'm not considering taking slam cuz there will probably someone else with it in the assist train, and guarding ppl should'nt be my job.
I do love slam too (i'm leveling a pala 2h but with slam ; y i know useless but still fun) but those red debuffs are such a pain in the ass for the enemies.
The only problem is that it's totally more difficult to debuff the appropriate enemies while following the assist train. Pan cam will be my friend i guess.

2) With full def/guard/debuff i'll be devoting myself to guarding friends & debuffing foes of course. In this case, the debuff job is a little bit easier i suppose. You have more time to watch the entire fight, & to see who should get debuffed, interrupted, snared, etc. Unfortunately we don't have back side snare with that spec, but nvm i'll manage.
Considering RA's, no idea yet except det 5

Hope it can help / start the discussion.

Zerza wrote:Hi there,

b) 42 shield/50 lw/39 valor (or 49 lw and 40 valor for yellow dd and yellow s/c buff)

There's no way you wanna miss the lvl 50LW style : it's the best one. So forget that 49LW thing :p

Thx for your input
Well if I would play in groups I'd take det5 too, thats for sure. But since it's not going to happen that often, I think I skip it.

I would try 50/50. 50 Valor is very strong and with ST and Backstun you could try without slam.

Zerza wrote:Thx for your input
Well if I would play in groups I'd take det5 too, thats for sure. But since it's not going to happen that often, I think I skip it.

Probably right but does it mean u won't join groups ?
I guess the problem with RvR is that either u play solo or u play in group ; meaning ur solo spec (edit : specially RAs & template) isnt suitable for group & vice versa.

Imo u'll have more fun playing in a group even though it might be hard to find one at the very beginning.
But if u're a good player, & u've got a nice group spec, i don't see any reason for fgs not to welcome u.

I never played solo (except with NS), so i can't advise u well on that point atm (but i'll be looking into it).
Does anybody know which are the most used classes for solo on uthgard ? Except those damn stealthers

darkar wrote:Does anybody know which are the most used classes for solo on uthgard ? Except those damn stealthers

Hib: VW, Champ, Hero
Alb: Arms, Friar
Mid: Skald, Thane, Warrior, Shaman (Cave)

Calatin wrote:

darkar wrote:Does anybody know which are the most used classes for solo on uthgard ? Except those damn stealthers

Hib: VW, Champ, Hero
Alb: Arms, Friar
Mid: Skald, Thane, Warrior, Shaman (Cave)

If u're a good strafer &/or that lvl 29 LW style works, i guess 50LW/50Valor is doable.
Most of the time u'll use Crush weap and just switch for slash against those studded/leather mid/chain alb.

If u feel like being more resistant & getting slam u could try 50Valor/42Shields/39Blunt with a nice after block chain in blunt.

Hero is far worse than BM when it comes to dueling. Charge is invaluable.

Zarkor wrote:Hero is far worse than BM when it comes to dueling. Charge is invaluable.

hm but hero has ip + deer mode so much more hitpoints , i n a classic melee duel i would bet on the hero, but shield bm is nice too. In a kite caster duel open field bm with charge is probably better.

@ champ
your ras are ok, static is a bit buggy afaik, firs pulse doesnt stun so its easy to avoid , ip2 , woc 2 are very nice

c) 50 lw/50 valor/ rest in parry

You have to decide as a champ what you want to do.

If you want to be DPS / Peeler, The 50/50 is your best bet. 9 sec annihalation stun anybody (and it's from behind so you'll land it on the assist train whose distracted).

If you want to be the Peeler/Def tank, go 42shield/39wep/40+val/rest parry

The peeler/Def tank is also the best option fora solo champ because landing a backstun via duels is /miracle mode.

Hibernianman1 wrote:The peeler/Def tank is also the best option fora solo champ because landing a backstun via duels is /miracle mode.

I land them all the time on my VW. Shouldn't be too hard as a Champion.

Austerim wrote:

Hibernianman1 wrote:The peeler/Def tank is also the best option fora solo champ because landing a backstun via duels is /miracle mode.

I land them all the time on my VW. Shouldn't be too hard as a Champion.

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