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Xacrag
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Postby Xacrag » Aug 14, 2013 11:17

It won´t change the Endgame RvR anyway if u increase the CAP, people can just sit longer in their BG´s and reroll with 5l so.

If u increase it to 6l0 it´s the same way, people should think about where this "HIGH-RR" Groups (how many "HIGH-RR" Groups are there actually? They started also at low RR.

Look at Requiem for example, when they started they got steamrolled also by a lot of groups and look where they are now.

So stop complain and just do RvR, there are many possibilitys to gain RP´s not only Emain.
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Postby Plok » Aug 14, 2013 11:22

Well a lot of people wont go emain duo to the rr9-rr11 pug groups running around. Tbh. well that's a part of the game but some people cba to go out and fight these groups so they just reroll another toon cap thid and farm more money.

Comming out of a bg higher than 4l2 wont hurt emain or any of the zerg rvr, since 95% of the people never go emain anyways. So to me it seems like a good soulution.

Oh the "awesome" action that emain brings it just :lol: anyways.
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Postby Barlox » Aug 14, 2013 11:36

Well coming to a Server after a few years that its online will always cause a lot of pain in the beginning, no doubt about that.

But as mentioned other grps were able to handle that too. Even though there are grps like Prime/Requiem I wouldnt take as example cause that are ppl that play together for years on a high level.

I havent had that much time to play since I dinged 50, but from what I saw you can easily make a good amount of RPs in PuGs. Especially if you got time to play before the SGs or GGs are out. And even then its not impossible to gain rps. You just gotta keep in mind that there are grps you cant compete with (and you prolly wont even if you got a high RR PUG later on). So if your Ego can handle to release more often than you are used to from other Servers you'll be fine.

The key is to find a Guild that matches you playstyle.

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Postby ZaiQQ » Aug 14, 2013 12:32

Wonder why no one ever thinks of the opposite direction. Remove the custom bgs, go for the old one. Having 2l2 as highest BG cap, forcing people out in emain to grab a few extra points. Fact is, on your day to day pve basis 4l2 is more then enough.

It's silly that you get the sense of being "done" with a char after you cap thid, since you're 50. Grab earlier bgs instead that you cap out faster from so its over and done. It worked fine on live going to emain at rr1.
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Postby Plok » Aug 14, 2013 13:09

Forcing people to go out at let's say 2l2 is not gonna change the action at all. A lot of people wont come emain and never will if they have to work their way up. You don't get good rp's from taking keeps etc. Emain is far from glowing on uthgard. 90% of the prime time you find 3-4 fg albs / 1 fg mids / 1 fg hibs simply because no one of the albs "cba" to log their low level rr toon on the other realm! But guess people perfer their save zone with their high rr's, instead of a challenge ;)
And when you find all those groups it's even a good day, even thid is glowing more. Something gotta be wrong :lol:

The game was new at that time when people went out in emain as rr1 level 40 etc. The game play have changed much since only more retards came and thanked EA for destroying the game haha! Even tho uthgard ain't close to the good old live days it's still better! :bored:
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Postby [R]Bloodwyne » Aug 14, 2013 13:23

In my opinion the action in the frontiers is not at all linked to the battlegrounds. Removing them completely would be the only way to force people with little will to do RvR out into the frontiers. If BG's end at 2L2 or 5L0 wouldnt change a thing imo, if you want to play the game in a competetive way your going out to emain, if not you stay in the battlegrounds or raid keeps.

The only way to improve action in emain and other frontiers is to lower timesinks and put some custom work into the frontiers.
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Postby Plok » Aug 14, 2013 13:25

Just make thid the new emain! :twisted: ^^
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Postby [R]Bloodwyne » Aug 14, 2013 13:27

Thid map is so ****** horrible
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Postby Xacrag » Aug 14, 2013 13:31

People are and will be ever scared about the High-RR Groups (once again how many really are running, especially at the moment during summer?) and they will always complain about things that are not fair.

Look at the mids, they know they can´t compete in 8v8 and go out in 24+ Slots. I mean that doesn´t help the 8v8 Community at all but atleast the generate Action.

It was talked a lot about, High-RR Groups doesn´t mention if "Low-RR" Groups come out as 12-16, but mostly 24+ is too much to beat.
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Postby Dirtymind » Aug 14, 2013 13:34

Sure, those 2-3 high rr groups can handle a small zerg, but those mid 16 slots are a pain for every average joe Alb Pug with some rr4-6. But ofc.. you can just change zone then or grab a 2nd 8 men joining you.
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Postby Plok » Aug 14, 2013 13:39

Neither can you claim emain as the 8vs8 community's zone. Everybody speaks with each others on IRC so changing zones to see some new colors would not hurt, but people perfer to qq! ;)
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Postby Xacrag » Aug 14, 2013 13:41

Nobody claimed EMain as 8v8 Zone ?

I don´t know how often Zones get changed because of Zerg´s, but keep in mind that you need enemy groups who follow you, what is pretty hard atm, since almost none of the regular groups are running.
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Postby Xacrag » Aug 14, 2013 16:52

What this Server really need are OLD-RA´s (i know not that Topic again) but here we go:

Other to the NEW RA´s the old RA´s have a very different timer. Like 30 Min on Purge or Instants, all the specific RA´s for the Realms would make a huge difference.

First of all if meet a "Low-RR" Group with your RR10+ Group you don´t dump RA´s like u do it now, you think about do i purge now or do i drop that instant etc, because you know if u face another group soon - maybe another "High-RR" Group and don´t have your RA´s up you will probably die.

If u use all your RA´s and face another "Low-RR" Group the chance they beat you is 10 times higher then at the moment.

Also there isn´t such a difference if u are RR5 or RR10(even thou OLD RA´s were created for like RR8?), because you have your Basics way earlier then with New RA´s.

And this Change ONLY this Change would have an influence for the daily RvR, nothing else can help to create more Action and get the casuals into the RvR.

This Groups who won´t go out at the moment would know, hey if i meet some of the High-RR Groups and they don´t have their RA´s up we can beat them, instead of like now, oh if we see them we are dead.
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Postby RonELuvv » Aug 14, 2013 23:56

O....M...G....

Are we seriously having this discussion again!? It gets brought up every month and its always shot down. Quit crying about how your poor RR4 char's get rolled to easily in frontier RvR and instead learn how to play your toon and stick to one or 2 toons instead of making 50 alts and getting them all to 4L2.

Yes, I can say its not hard. Why? I was solo on my hunter at 3L's and got MANY solo kills against much higher ranked players. Yes, I had a great template. You know why? Because my plat wasnt split up over 400 alts. I have 2 main toons, 1 group toon, and 1 group farming toon. I do have other alts, but I spend almost zero time on them.

This server is not here to serve up your version of DAOC. It is what it is, and if you dont like the setting then move on. I'm so tired of hearing the same old tired QQ threads. "We dont like how hard frontier RvR is... Make it so we never have to leave BG's...." Then what is the point in even having frontier RvR? :wall: Do you also not realise that if more of you and the other RR4 toons showed up to Frontier RvR after Thid that you would have more players at your skill level to fight. GENIUS! I've just solved your problem.

On another side note: OLD RA'S ARE NOT COMING!!! We cant test them and hence will not come. Once again, get over it and move on.

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Postby Force » Aug 15, 2013 05:24

RonELuvv wrote:
On another side note: OLD RA'S ARE NOT COMING!!! We cant test them and hence will not come. Once again, get over it and move on.




That isn't why Old RAs are not coming.

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