I am a new player here. been playing over a month. highest toon is a lvl 39 arms. so, i dont know how NF work yet. i do know about both bg's.

i was surprized top find the braemer bg lord to be red to me. funny was i cuold hit him harder then he cuold hit me! WOW, REALY GIMP LORD. WELL WE ALL MUST GROW. grow i did. as a 39. not even level 40 yet. i see the wilton lord as a orange lord. OMG i never tryed but i can beat this guy!

come on guys that is a joke. compare to live. breamor your need 2fg to kill lord. sure less then a fg can do it if there really good. in uthgard ive seen a NS and a mentlist kill him! too players, one was not a tank, but a ruoge class. other wasn't even a real healer! how many people have solo the wilton lord?

im sorry but the keep shuold never been tooken bye 1-2 people at 3am while the world sleeps, it requires a effeort /teamwork. not just, hey let take our gruop of 2 and kill lord breamer today!

if the emain keep are this gimp, that will show huge weakness. and the 3am players can wipe the map each day.

strenght of emain lord depends on keep level , 1st one isnt very hard but at 3 am as you say lord mostly will be 4 so not posible for singles ...

There is not a char atm that can solo the Braemar or Wilton lord...at least i do not know about it. The lord heals reaching a certain level of HP...there is nothing a solo char can do about it.

Forget those live experiences, this is uthgard, you just do not get a full group most of the times. Making the lord stronger only will result in longer keep holding times...and the bonus is already to long in one hand most of the times.

Thats my opinion.

Greetz
Kronos

Yyrd wrote: i see the wilton lord as a orange lord. OMG i never tryed but i can beat this guy!

try it, and you will discover you probably can't, he is orange, but tough orange. However duo can kill him.

kronos even if 1 cant solo him, IVE seen a NS and a mentelist do it.

think about these two classes. not a very good choice. since they cuold do it. what stop the 3am crowd from rolling all the keeps.


if i remember correctly while the lord heals, he dont hit back. then it becomes : can i damage faster then he heals?

he hits back while healing, fewer than while he doesn't but he hits you can solo braemar lord but only with a few classes... wilton lord - i don't know, but should be easy with the right class as he's really low (already cons orange to my blademaster at 36 so he can't be much higher than 41)

well its posible for some duo , mentalist is good healer and dont get agro from helaing so is very good for this ....
i did it with my nature druid and ranger

Every NS/Infi/SB is able to solo the lords in Braemar and Wilton if he is
specced in critical strike:

step 1 - open the inner gate
step 2 - attack the lord with backstab 2 and run up the stairs to the rooftop
--> the lord will come out of stun, chase you a bit and loose the sight/aggro
when you reached the rooftop and he will stand on the stairs
step 3 - restealthed jump down the stairs behind the lord, backstab2 him
step4 - rinse and repeat

Tougher Keeplords don't improve the RVR situation in any way.

it keep 2 player from steam rolling all the keeps at 3am.

we have this all the time but you are the first person who camplains about it (and only) ....

yyrd,its just the missing system of rams etc. otherwise these guys could not open the doors and there would be no 2-ppl-all-keep-reraids in the middle of the night.

first person maen nobody esle agrees?


well, i realy think i have a valid point.

its up to the GM's not the players.

at least i can say my idea, and they can read it.

if you need 2 fg to raid the keeps that means you'll need 2 fg to do smthg in emain when enemies has left?

it's not easy to find 6 players to raid the keeps so with 2 FG...

you go raid the keeps to bring enemies in emain. but if you see "guard has been killed in crimtain with 20 players in the area" i doubt that will motive people to log and go to fight them.


if such thing would happen i think the main rvr area will be DF. and emain would be empty all the time exept some days when a realm organised raid on a forum.

well i fuond on live servors, higher the level requires less players to take the keep.

tower lord can be solo, but normaly require at least 2 players.

thid requires about 12 players, can be done with 8 if balanced gruop.
molvik requires about 1fg, but can be done with about 6.
cathal can be done with 3-4 players(cathal is none upgradeable)
NF takes about 6players.

i think the main factor is resists. on live caster cant hurt lords. sometimes dots will stick, but regular spell do minor daamge.

(edit typo)i think the braemer lord neeeds to be 1-3 level higher. and the (WILTON) lord needs to be 5-8 levels higher. i know nothin about NF lords.