Rajnish wrote:populations were like this with hour left to go:

Albion:113
Midgard: 87
Hibernia: 45

well i guess albs won due to their great tactical strength

Bloodwyne wrote:i think you should have calculated down with the population instead of choosing random numbers ... theres a huge unexplainable gap between 8 and 35 uthalis tbh

lets say it was 120 albs 90 mids and 60 hibs

if alb get 8 mids should get 12 and hibs 16 or sth like that ...

and scaling it linearly makes no sense at all
if u fight 113 vs 45 u think in 45/158 cases hibs will win, or wont they loose every match up? well my memory tells me the second case is more likely

pweet wrote:

Rajnish wrote:populations were like this with hour left to go:

Albion:113
Midgard: 87
Hibernia: 45

well i guess albs won due to their great tactical strength

Bloodwyne wrote:i think you should have calculated down with the population instead of choosing random numbers ... theres a huge unexplainable gap between 8 and 35 uthalis tbh

lets say it was 120 albs 90 mids and 60 hibs

if alb get 8 mids should get 12 and hibs 16 or sth like that ...

and scaling it linearly makes no sense at all
if u fight 113 vs 45 u think in 45/158 cases hibs will win, or wont they loose every match up? well my memory tells me the second case is more likely

ur mathematic genius just didnt consider that it wasnt just about winning against a zerg but playing smart

i think my idea is pretty fair.. at the end i dont care anyway

Event went a bit too much into PvE direction as it got imbalanced due to stronger presence of Albion (possible xrealmer included) and less defense of other realms like Hibernia. We think about solutions to keep the main focus on the RvR aspect. Switching realms to gather Uthalis is not intended.

Well they got shafted if they switched for Uthalis anyway.

Albs win one event for the first time in approx 2 years and you decide now to ****** the reward? Never once had a realm been penalized for zerging until now. Maybe you gms should have brought into consideration the fact that in the 2nd go round players might actually know what to do i.e. ninja taking princess and telling Zerg when to be at castle for cap. It's getting annoying that the gms are waiting till after the fact to ****** with the rewards. Just like the Christmas event where the promise of good rewards was given in the description only to be changed at the end of the event. Otherwise, event was fun until you stuck your fat fingers in it.

As said in the other thread. Event have a certain pool of rewards/Uthalis. By capturing medals you reserve your share of the reward pool. The Uthalis drops by player kills are not considered in that pool.

Complete bullshit blue and nowhere is that stated in the event description. And as to the event becoming more pve oriented wtf did you think would happen? People want to maximize their uthalis reward because that's prolly the main reason they are there and taking princess and killing lord did just that. 2fg of hibs could have easily taken a princess. 2 or 3 times they just didn't know what to do. We grabbed the mid and hib princess 3 or 4 times with 15 np while Zerg was either at opposite keep or at apk.

So to sum up. You create a currency. Make said currency a reward. Hold an event 2x and change the reward in the 2nd event because you don't like that players maximized on what was given to them as an objective? (cap princess, kill lord) just sounds like there was no logic in the process to nerf the value of the medal but u had to make sure to cover your asses by stating that you retro actively implemented a realm wide uthalis pool. Very amateur hour good thing this server is just a hobby

Hell, last event we took a Princess with 5 and tons more people were on.

SO just 100 uthalis for everybody next time and no things that make u think u get more could solve this...
Was a bit disappointing to see the result of the good work. If we had know before we would have logged mid to farm princesses, but we couldn´t know... maybe next time

Next time we make it more clear that there is a fixed reward count where you have to fight for the share of it. The reward will always be in relation to the effort and difficulty. That was the case in every event we had. Uthalis is a replacement for fixed rewards for top 10 ranks which we had before. It is still limited and is not really farmable (beside player kills). You was also not able to farm reskins in any previous event.

We will make sure this is understood next time.

Its good to know there will be an incentive for playing an underpopulated realm.

But the problem with item distribution still remains.
It's safe to say, 90% of the uthalis drops were just litter on the ground.

Damage is clearly not the deciding factor in who loot belongs to.
I've seen many times in PvE where a player out of group can do 10-15% dmg and claim everything.
In one instance, I was helping people level at fins by giving them PoM and dotting the monsters.
While I was out of group, I got 100% of the loot.

If they don't fix this, why not at least auto-loot from larger ranges?

pythion wrote:But the problem with item distribution still remains.
It's safe to say, 90% of the uthalis drops were just litter on the ground.

Damage is clearly not the deciding factor in who loot belongs to.

Its not just damage. Heals count in too. But yes the current system has some weak points which will be addressed. It should also be visible somehow whether a drop belongs to you or not.

Blue wrote:

pythion wrote:But the problem with item distribution still remains.
It's safe to say, 90% of the uthalis drops were just litter on the ground.

Damage is clearly not the deciding factor in who loot belongs to.

Its not just damage. Heals count in too. But yes the current system has some weak points which will be addressed. It should also be visible somehow whether a drop belongs to you or not.

The nearest loot key does find your own, but it's very tedious to turn around in a fight to pick things up.
I should say it's very discouraging to kill people with no adds in the area and the loot doesnt belong to you.

Severe imbalances aside this is still an extremely fun concept for an event, loved it start to finish even if we were outnumbered 3 to 1 and I only got 1 uthalis That's just the way it goes, some people don't like to lose and some just love the challenge. Still made 2 nights worth of rps so I can't complain... other than the fact if 40 of those albs had any shred of honor they would have logged Hib to balance the event. Thank goodness the rewards were adjusted accordinly that would have been even more of a sting to those who refused to jump on the uthalis train, imagine those 10-15 medals being worth 35 uthalis each for simply having the bigger zerg.

Kind of ironic that Hibs have dominated like the last 4 previous events before this one and always with bigger numbers. GMs said albs lost because they did not have good coordinated leadership and miraculously the hibs rewards did not get reduced for being a bigger zerg or doing better in the competition. I have been on many events were on Alb we did not get crap for rewards, while hibs got tons of them.

So what changed this time? Hib did bad so they should be rewarded when Albion never was not in the past? Just kind of funny to see anyone from Hibernia claming its fair when in the past they always won and never got penalized for it. So next time you want to talk honor, perhaps it would be more honorable to take your 1 loss out of 5 events and get the 1 uthalis your earned vs the 35 given to you out of pity XD