Reaver Start Stats and Swing Cap

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Postby Dirtymind » Apr 01, 2013 16:57

Hey all,

I recently made some thoughts about Reaver optimizing...

What would be the optimal start stats for reaver if you think of maximizing damage output later? And damage output is levi = (str+dex):2 and ofc influenced by quickness (the more levis, the better).

What would be the optimal start stats? 10 dex, 10 str, 10 qui or even 10 dex(both damage and block) and 15 qui?

Anybody did the math about swing cap?

60 base qui as briton, 63 from cleric buffs (40 enh), 16% haste from earth theurg,.... variables left are starting stats and aug quickness...

I used this calculater to play around, dont know whether this one applies to uthgard.

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Postby Austerim » Apr 01, 2013 17:08

I'm 10 Dex 15 Quick on my Saracen Reaver and I have 250 Quickness with Aug Quick3 and yellow D/Q.
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lordgriffon wrote:Oh by the way... ever seen a group of 8 smite clerics? Or play against a group like that? I have. Absolute devastation. The group that runs up against them can't kill them fast enough because smite clerics have sooooooo many tools at their disposal combined with decent ranged damage with 8 of them dudes doing it!

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Postby Dirtymind » Apr 01, 2013 17:55

60 base
15 start stat
63 cleric buffs
75 sc
22 aug quick 3
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235

or is 60 base quick for saracen wrong?

Or maybe I got another error.
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Postby Austerim » Apr 01, 2013 18:01

Yellow D/Q is 78 after bonus.
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lordgriffon wrote:Oh by the way... ever seen a group of 8 smite clerics? Or play against a group like that? I have. Absolute devastation. The group that runs up against them can't kill them fast enough because smite clerics have sooooooo many tools at their disposal combined with decent ranged damage with 8 of them dudes doing it!

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Postby Dirtymind » Apr 01, 2013 18:11

What kind of bonus?
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Postby Austerim » Apr 01, 2013 18:59

Spec/buff bonus, whatever you want to call it.
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lordgriffon wrote:Oh by the way... ever seen a group of 8 smite clerics? Or play against a group like that? I have. Absolute devastation. The group that runs up against them can't kill them fast enough because smite clerics have sooooooo many tools at their disposal combined with decent ranged damage with 8 of them dudes doing it!

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Postby majky666 » Apr 02, 2013 06:54

I did 10str/10dex/10q, and with aug q2 now my reaver have 235 qui with yellow d/q buff (saracen)
I allways used this speed calc
http://www.etilader.com/wscalc.php
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Postby HulkGris » Apr 02, 2013 16:17

Dirtymind wrote:What kind of bonus?

Effective value of most spells is delve + 25%.
To obtain this 25% bonus, your final spec (inluding RR and stuff bonus) has to be at least spell level + 1 in the spell line. For example, this is true for stat bonus giving by buff, duration of crowd control spells and HP healed by heal spell.
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Postby svperstar » Apr 03, 2013 14:20

I would recommend going with higher quick. With cleric buffs in raids I sit at 235 qck and kicking myself for not doing higher. Though there are stat respec stones not really wanting to drop the plats.
There will be a group of people out there who will want this realm to be entirely Mythic-like. Exactly like vanilla, drop rates/xp rates, basically everything and you will not be able to please them unless it is exactly like vanilla.

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Postby Smokey » Apr 03, 2013 14:46

for swingspeed cap as a Saracen you need :

10dex / 15 quick starting stats
aug quick 3
atleast yellow d/q from a cleric or 75 d/q charge
17% haste buff
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Postby Drakonal » Apr 03, 2013 18:50

IS saracen the only way to go for Reaver? I like briton but not at the expense of being gimp.




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Postby shezzy » Apr 03, 2013 19:54

Drakonal wrote:IS saracen the only way to go for Reaver? I like briton but not at the expense of being gimp.




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It doesn't make as much of a difference... since STR / DEX are both part of the equation for flex having more and less of another is a wash... the only real benefit of being a saracen is the higher dex ( at the cost of CON ). however, DEX helps your shield block rate very minimally - I think you'll have 1.5-2% more block rate. I chose a briton reaver with starting stats ( 10str/dex/quick ) and don't regret it.. also briton/saracen have same starting quickness AFAIK of 60 so really comes down to differences in str/con/dex.. either way it won't be a earth shattering difference.

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Postby pweet » Apr 03, 2013 21:33

there is no reason to go briton as a reaver but since quick is the most important stat, there is no real difference

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Postby Magicco » Apr 04, 2013 22:09

just be sure to hit 250quick fullbuffed and with aug-qui


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