ForumThid > OF ? Oh yeah!
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+1 I think I can say we all want a smaller MaP to PvP with lvl50 char. All are fed up to roam during 1h for nothing, your group split and an ennemi fg inc zerg you, you build a group during 1h, the ennemi group has log out because of no action, you roam during 1h, your gr...  If gm can do something it could be great Vidmar/Raditz
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Teleporter keeps aside (which I think would help quite a bit), people simply need to get off their butts and build random zergs. Or failing that, build groups and go look for inc in OG or HW. And accept that it will take a while until things pick up. The problem is currently that there is no such 'random RvR' culture, and building that up will require a bit of patience and participation across realms. We had something like that going on for a while a few months back, where there was decent action in Midgard while the dedicated 8-men groups were fighting in Emain. It just fell apart for some reason - probably also due to some guild groups thinking that they would have easy pickings among the random groups as opposed to the somewhat tougher challenge in Emain (Hexagone comes to mind). RvR is ultimately a competitive thing (i.e. there are winners and losers and loosing sucks), and if you are not in it for the competetion (i.e. random/casual RvR), then you need a certain critical mass to sustain constant action. And a significant amount of dedication, especially regarding organizers in each realm that take charge of building e.g. random zergs. And that is lacking here. People will rather fall back on twinking and doing another round through the BGs than really working on getting a more casual endgame RvR culture going. Because it is easier and, well, casual. At the end of the day, if people don't want this, then it will not happen. You can try and make endgame RvR a little less time-sinky, but you can go only so far before you substantially mess with the design of RvR.  |
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smaller maps = more zergs and less 8vs8.
if you want that, i am fine.  |
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 all you can think about are zergs.also on a small map, you can have quite nice 8v8s. all u need is...
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i was thinking about 8vs8 not about zergs, and i just wanted to warn you to be careful what you wish for.
We already had a lot of people cying about no possible 8vs8 back in the agramon days here (and the rvr population was about half the numbers we have today)... and a bg map would be waaaaay too small |
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WOW you are able to QQ more then me and that´s almost impossible.
Stop QQ and start to play, you really think you are the first who open such a Thread in the Forum, OF will stay like they are, GM´s won´t change it, so accept it or go play on a i50 Server where you can have your BG-Small-Map r0xx0r Action.
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Yeah thid is so much fun, cant wait my Champ dinging 44. Just took me 2 month to get there i ll ve at least 1weak soooo much fun!
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Work is already in progress. Anyway, the server can't offer a Thid-like environnement for level 50. Thidranki works fine because your are kick out the BG after a some runs. And for the best players, it's just a few runs, so the players better than others won't stay for long. It helps to avoir huge gap of power between groups. The only solution would be to introduce many be with lvl 50 and RR restrictions but it would kill the real RvR and moreover the server. BG should be taken as they are, like a different aspect of DAoC, an alternative of the classic rvr gameplay. I like BG but i also like "real' rvr. The current project of adding a TP in our own zone is imo a nice first step to improve rvr. And maybe the only one needed. I don't know how it will be done. Maybe it could be nice to add a TP in the middle of the "central" zone (i mean breifine/pennine/jamtland). A simple tower where you could tp inside and go out, but not go back inside to prevent usage of this tower as a safe backup zone. Reducing the delay between the visur casting would so nice too... or just add a simple right-click-teleport... for no cost  RIP : Ectoplasme
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Just a thought, since the teleport would be a very heavy customization: Whatever happened to the idea to implement Corpse Summoners? That would serve a similar purpose, create clear hotspots and incentive to actually upgrade keeps.
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Yes, corpse summoners are on the todo list. But there were changes on live that made them less useful. On the other side its a nice incentive to get a keep to level 10. OF is a big playfield for us to introduce a lot tactical options. Not much is done yet.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..." |
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What are you talking about? I´d talked about OF as Map stay like it is not more or less, yes maybe they will implement something like Teleporters etc, but the OF-Map they never Change, it will stay big like it is at the moment. And tbh i dont think teleporters to a "Hot-Spot" or to a "Keep" will change that much, since there is the last 3 months really good action at the primetime, and yeah at the moment you are able to avoid a zerg if u want to , because the Map is that big.
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I think the different experience for some in OF lies in the fact in which timezone they play. US timezone players should focus on Emain only or keep raiding as the night time population does not allow much more at the moment. Emain in the end behaves like a BG with the difference that Hib has it a bit more uncomfortable.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..." |
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I agree, at least partly. BGs have the charm of having fast action with different kind if players and lineups. Problem in OF is - the "fast" is missing as well all know, waiting for the bus makes no fun, neither it does give you the possibily to "explore the beautiful landscape" of daoc while sitting on the grey stone, waiting for 6 guys with staffs in their hand to make some hokus-pokus and finally bring you to the place you'd like to go to. and suddenly you realize - forgot the necklace plus, what I am missing (old player of uthgard) are bridges and water, or in generell, a more challenging map. OF somehow seems "flat" and boring - i dont know why, but I cant make friends with it. Last edited by wla on Mar 27, 2013 14:28, edited 1 time in total.
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For the fun I quote something from an older thread when we still had Agramon
@wla: The fact that BG's are perceived fast is the /release to PK instead bind stone. This is a bug. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..." |
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