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Questions about 1.113

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svperstar Eagle Knight Posts: 638 Joined: May 31, 2012 20:33	Reply with quote by svperstar » Mar 23, 2013 12:54 First is there a direct download for the 1.113 DLL, something that doesn't require me to run the official patcher or anything like that? I would rather not hose my DAOC installer for Uthgard. I am running 1.109 right now. Also I remember forever ago reading something about UDP support. So if I upgrade to 1.113 can I expect a smoother experience? I ping between 160-200ms from uthgard which sucks so anything that helps would be nice. Other then that what benefit do I get from going to 1.113? I have heard rumors that the devs are trying to phase out 1.109 Thanks. There will be a group of people out there who will want this realm to be entirely Mythic-like. Exactly like vanilla, drop rates/xp rates, basically everything and you will not be able to please them unless it is exactly like vanilla. These people have their nostalgia goggles on so tight it's cutting off the bloodflow to their brain and they believe that vanilla was perfect and nothing was wrong with it.

Blue Developer Posts: 15822 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	Reply with quote by Blue » Mar 23, 2013 14:25 The official way we recommend is to delete the file "mft.myp" then start camelot.exe. Never ever just upgrade game.dll. This can lead to a lot of problems and crashes. Daocportal takes care of downpatching current live version to workable versions. So all you have to do after the Daoc patch completed is to connect. UDP works on Uthgard if your firewall let it pass. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

svperstar Eagle Knight Posts: 638 Joined: May 31, 2012 20:33	Reply with quote by svperstar » Mar 24, 2013 00:57 Thanks for the reply Blue. Can you explain a bit more on what benefit people get from going to 1.113? Thanks. There will be a group of people out there who will want this realm to be entirely Mythic-like. Exactly like vanilla, drop rates/xp rates, basically everything and you will not be able to please them unless it is exactly like vanilla. These people have their nostalgia goggles on so tight it's cutting off the bloodflow to their brain and they believe that vanilla was perfect and nothing was wrong with it.

Abydos Game Master Posts: 6839 Joined: Jan 22, 2011 21:14	Reply with quote by Abydos » Mar 24, 2013 01:17 One advantage is UDP will work, so you will see more smooth movement and less warping.

Drakons20 Gryphon Knight Posts: 219 Joined: Jun 17, 2009 00:00	Reply with quote by Drakons20 » Mar 24, 2013 09:49 I followed the steps but keep getting the error. "The patch client was unable to retrieve the file [patcher.prod.sig] from the patch server". My firewall is off and I have the .exe as Admin.

Rector Alerion Knight Posts: 2744 Joined: Mar 02, 2006 01:00 Website	Reply with quote by Rector » Mar 24, 2013 10:24 Abydos wrote:One advantage is UDP will work, so you will see more smooth movement and less warping. Less warping if we all switch to 1.113? Aha, I really have to update my UI Catgard UI Mod (aka Blutrausch-UI)\|Twitch-Stream\|R.I.P. Blutrausch@Uth1\|Uth2-Tools: Bestiary\|Signature

Blue Developer Posts: 15822 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	Reply with quote by Blue » Mar 24, 2013 15:47 Drakons20 wrote:I followed the steps but keep getting the error. "The patch client was unable to retrieve the file [patcher.prod.sig] from the patch server". My firewall is off and I have the .exe as Admin. Maybe Mythic patch server are down. Try again later. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

Drakons20 Gryphon Knight Posts: 219 Joined: Jun 17, 2009 00:00	Reply with quote by Drakons20 » Mar 24, 2013 20:21 Wasn't the patch server being down, not sure what the hell is going on. I literally had to download the trial version from Mythic and it's patching a new install.

Jezzmin Phoenix Knight Posts: 1602 Joined: Mar 11, 2010 01:00	Reply with quote by Jezzmin » Mar 24, 2013 20:49 Drakons20 wrote:Wasn't the patch server being down, not sure what the hell is going on. I literally had to download the trial version from Mythic and it's patching a new install. had the same issues several times which my pendragon-test-version...the first 2 times i downloaded the whole client again...the last 2 times i only deleted all the files in the main-daoc-dir (i.e. logs, configs and stuff, excluding the actual game-executables (exe, bin and dll files), but not the folders with the really big files) and it worked fine Genuine Spirit Cabalist since 2002 Magicco wrote:i would give my live acc data only to trustworthy ppl like jezzmin

Drakons20 Gryphon Knight Posts: 219 Joined: Jun 17, 2009 00:00	Reply with quote by Drakons20 » Mar 24, 2013 21:19 Really wish you'd just put the latest patch in the download section for people who run into this issue.

Jezzmin Phoenix Knight Posts: 1602 Joined: Mar 11, 2010 01:00	Reply with quote by Jezzmin » Mar 24, 2013 22:53 Drakons20 wrote:Really wish you'd just put the latest patch in the download section for people who run into this issue. imho not allowed for legal reasons...it's mythic's "property" after all so uthgard can't just offer it for download Genuine Spirit Cabalist since 2002 Magicco wrote:i would give my live acc data only to trustworthy ppl like jezzmin

pythion Eagle Knight Posts: 647 Joined: Jun 21, 2010 00:00	Reply with quote by pythion » Mar 24, 2013 23:25 I understand there is a lot of time invested in adapting 1.113 to DOL, but maybe its not worth it. To force 1.110+ would mean many of the players on Uthgard would need to jump through a lot of hoops just to play again. Update Portal/.Net -> Patch DAoC/Delete mft.myp -> Update/Disable UI -> Downgrade DAoC If it wasnt troublesome enough to downgrade, since 1.110 it's been 1 year of people asking each day on how to downgrade their client. If the update happens any UI made over a year ago will crash the game and be near impossible to retrofit for most users. 1.113 has a limit of 60fps which causes screen tearing and movement issues. If live is patching will people get auth errors? (Already happened on 2 occasions) If we're updating what's the benefit? (Less 3rd party programs and better latency?) If the dll is already out of date aren't we back at square one? Are future versions being worked on? (1.114 120fps is really nice) I feel like it could be giant headache for GM's and players. Hopefully people are prepared and the update goes smoothly. ^^ __________________RvR Videos - Pyth UI_____________________

Blue Developer Posts: 15822 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	Reply with quote by Blue » Mar 25, 2013 01:27 We are working on it. It will get more smooth and easy over time. Its already quite easy in my opinion as the portal also automatically cares about everything like downpatching and mod installing. The authserver / spam problems for some are investigated by us and we hope to have it soon disappear. We are forced to update the whole player base to keep in sync with new players who come in with newest versions. We are not allowed to offer download of older daoc versions. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

TheKrokodil Alerion Knight Posts: 2126 Joined: Jan 11, 2005 01:00	Reply with quote by TheKrokodil » Mar 25, 2013 01:31 The advantages for moving to a version > v1.1110 are immense (UDP for large rvr, RSA, automodding), and thus we plan to stick with this. I have a working fix for getting 120hz/fps to work on v1.113, but it is still in beta. It'll come soon though. For your patch flow: a) "Updating the portal" -- Should be done all by itself if it wasn't for the outdated 2.6 installer. We need the updated portal to do fun stuff like dynamically adding zones for certain events. b) Updating DAoC -- Well, that only has to be done once. As soon as everyone is on v1.113, we don't plan on moving anywhere else. Maintaining 30 different versions of DAoC is just not reasonable for a project administered in our free time. Hope this sheds some light into the "why" for v1.113 -- M Be nice. :)

espire Warder Posts: 45 Joined: Jan 21, 2009 01:00	Reply with quote by espire » Mar 25, 2013 15:23 Problem is, I'm on 1.95 (hehe) and it wont let me upgrade tot 1.113. I have no mft.myp file anywhere and I still cannot update. "Cannot connect to update server" "Please wait a while and then try connecting again" blablabla. Is there any way to resolve this?