Yyrd, Too much to read, Read it anyway, posting before reading is a serious crime to the forums, it splits from the topic

Were not comparing them with eachother, were just discussing if its possible for every class to kill the other with skill , luck and a nice template

Raven wrote:@Poplik Two stuns , second at 1/2 , thats whats the immunity is for

not in RvR, guess what, I play a cleric :p

This is for PvE Poplik is right - immunity timer gives you 1min immunity of stun afterwards you can stun your opponent again with same duration as first.

Sorry Razzer, but thats wrong too.
Immunity timer depends of the duration of the stun you get, a 1 sec stun doesnt give you 1 min immunity.
I think thats the reason mythic give numb another animation than other shield styles, it was perfect to let your enemy use purge, a few secs later he get a slam, and no more purge^^

Stun immunity timer depends on whether it was casted (1 minute in RvR, regardless of stun duration) or styled (immunity is stun duration (delve) x 5 in RvR).

Greetz

Calad

@Pana I know more about the game than you think, Also my resists are perfectly fine, The topic brings problems cuz people dont use it right, I play an armsman , cave spec shamans are a real pain , and i DONT get one shotted by the dragon, my record is 32 hits survived (Evade tank ), indeed its not very friendly and please stay on the topic

Look people, this is getting a real pain, this topic is so gettign abused, its not to ask nerf, ****** on people or ****** on classes, its just to discuss if other players are experiencing class balance issues !

Oh, and everyone , thanks for the Stun help, i was still sticking to PvE stun

Now back to the damn topic, I only have problems with cave spec shamans on my Armsman, and still, only then when they have high spec, its certain death in open fields with a higher spec, can get on my nerves,
The plus point to a cave spec shammy is , its group goes down like turds, no buffs, crappy heals Am i right or what ?

Also , Cleric smite spells should remain nerfed , since thats what the new players want to spec smite on, wich would leave us witouth spec buffs or decent heals, but the defensive spells can go for a little buff perhaps, What do you guys think ?

Please stay on topic, no flames , no senseless posts, no gibberish crap or im so spamming a gm to close it , gms be warned

you just dont get it , do you?

a solo full tank cant beat a well played cave spec shammy , and it isnt disigned for it anyway.
A solo fulltank is easy rps for most classes with speed CC or endu run. Thats it and changes or new abilities for this classes would change the whole balance. Where will this end? Atm it seems to me you just demand to power up some alb classes , like you wished to strenghten the dmg of scouts / the smithe line of clerics.

Albion has a lot classes that are though too, and that can be real annoying to solo players.

A well played sorc with a good ra spec > nearly all in 1 vs 1
Friar as well one of the hardest solo classes , i watched lon kill fg lvlers in emain with his st and rr 5 ra as he used to be active in rvr.
Tankminstrel is very usefull too with is ablative chant that cant be found in any of the other realms.

What now if somebody different dont likes this classes and thinks they are to strong.
Shall he start a new thread and demand to change particular things on them?

You cant start to change things here like this, because this will get totally out of control.

as long as every realm got reasons to complain about the other, things seem quite balanced

just one thing i was wondering... shouldn't you get immune to disease when effect is cure or disease timer finished?

@Pana I never live to tell the tale of disease immunity xD

But normally you should get immunity, Just as in Real life, if you have a disease, and you cure from it, your immune to it.
Same on live server. But i dont think you get immunities from purge/cure =/

disease gives no immunity, neither expired nor cured/purged

Well it should when expired , read it somehwere on VN boards i guess..
Anyway, it doesnt make any sense then, If i got the flu, its a onetime thing,
If you get diseased you SHOULD get immunity

I know about dots and debuff, but i was wondering about disease

Maybe its a post 1.80 patch note i read ... but I read somewhere about disease getting immunity >,<

Raven wrote:And if you get complaints about class balance often and by numorous players, doesnt it give a twitch that there might be something wrong

Hi there,

I played a lot of online-games in the past and on some of them I am/was an admin.

There always had and are complains about the imbalance of classes in ALL games and what I found out is: if everyone is complaining about UBER-classes and or imbalance, everything is OK and there is no need to change anything.

Dwalin

Stop rezzing the topic, it got raped from the beginning and should be locked