Midgard dragon guide??

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Ryken
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Postby Ryken » Mar 05, 2013 20:41

I've done quite a bit of searching for a walkthrough of killing the Midgard dragon on this forum but the closest thing I found was someone asking and another person telling them to just go on someone elses raid and learn it. I've been playing for several months now and have yet to find anyone besides Ivann who led raids and he did it in pretty much the dead middle of my night (i'm a PST time zone player).

Anyone care to help me out with a walkthrough of killing Mid dragon?

I led dragon raids many years ago back on live that should be in the patch target range of this server but I don't have any of my notes back then and my memory is hazy.

What I remember from then.

-Dragon does a cone type aoe effect at each X% interval in life (possibly every 15% or 20%)?
-Dragon will "glare" at anyone out of melee range who draws agro resulting in powerful aoe attack
-Dragon will release wolves that bring adds at a certain % of life. If doing small # of people you have to stop these fast

That was pretty much it in terms of unique things you had to worry about. Anyone able to fill me in the % life intervals for the above? Any other unique mechanics to be aware of?

I'm guessing typical groups set up is main group with cross guarding warriors, 2 healers, sham and rest skalds/zerks. 2nd group 2 healer/sham with skalds zerks? Everyone heals MA?

Appreciate the help.
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Postby pweet » Mar 05, 2013 23:57

sorry to tell u the same, but a walk through is senseless since it takes you joining 1 raid and you know how to do it.

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Postby Raggnar » Mar 06, 2013 00:12

Ryken wrote:I've done quite a bit of searching for a walkthrough of killing the Midgard dragon on this forum but the closest thing I found was someone asking and another person telling them to just go on someone elses raid and learn it. I've been playing for several months now and have yet to find anyone besides Ivann who led raids and he did it in pretty much the dead middle of my night (i'm a PST time zone player).

Anyone care to help me out with a walkthrough of killing Mid dragon?

I led dragon raids many years ago back on live that should be in the patch target range of this server but I don't have any of my notes back then and my memory is hazy.

What I remember from then.

-Dragon does a cone type aoe effect at each X% interval in life (possibly every 15% or 20%)?
-Dragon will "glare" at anyone out of melee range who draws agro resulting in powerful aoe attack
-Dragon will release wolves that bring adds at a certain % of life. If doing small # of people you have to stop these fast

That was pretty much it in terms of unique things you had to worry about. Anyone able to fill me in the % life intervals for the above? Any other unique mechanics to be aware of?

I'm guessing typical groups set up is main group with cross guarding warriors, 2 healers, sham and rest skalds/zerks. 2nd group 2 healer/sham with skalds zerks? Everyone heals MA?

Appreciate the help.


I did around 350 dragon raids on various characters, and on 300+ of them I was leading. What I can tell you is that people like to slack a lot. Even guys that did 100+ raids often can't do things on their own and are like robots, waiting for my macro to make a move. If I have RL inc or miss click, they usually ****** up something. And yes, as Pweet says, for any person with more than 3 active brain cells, it only takes 1-2 raids to learn it properly. Also, I can tell you that it's best to have 14-16 people(I prefer 14), because more people means more chaos(potential chaos anyway). Since the mob dmg and absorb changes, dragon is easier to hit and it dies faster, but it hits very hard. So you need to have focused healers and good tanks. I guess I am too lazy now to make a guide, but I might make one.
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Postby Ryken » Mar 06, 2013 00:39

Anyone else leading dragon raids still then? If so I'd like to join. You can PM me if you prefer. I can bring either RR5+ skald/zerk or 4L5 tri spec healer or a 3L5 aug sham and would like to learn the strategy that works for Uthgard.
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Postby majky666 » Mar 06, 2013 09:34

If you join Midgardian dragon raid as newbie,you have no chance to get any of top items because stupid raid rules
viewtopic.php?f=61&t=28768&hilit=dragon+raid
So learn how to lead raid fast and show how to lead raid with FAIR rules (loot distribution). GL with raids and i wish you no slackers/afkers/dumbasses on your raids.
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Postby Raggnar » Mar 06, 2013 11:54

majky666 wrote:If you join Midgardian dragon raid as newbie,you have no chance to get any of top items because stupid raid rules
viewtopic.php?f=61&t=28768&hilit=dragon+raid
So learn how to lead raid fast and show how to lead raid with FAIR rules (loot distribution). GL with raids and i wish you no slackers/afkers/dumbasses on your raids.



I love implications from a person that never leads raids, really xD. Normally I would not respond to this, but I will because I see you never lead raids. You have no idea how many raids I did and how much stuff I gave away for free, so please think before you talk. Yes, rules are fair. Whole point of the game is that you attend a certain number of raids and get something. Sorry, but I had a lot of players that were regulars, I could always count on them, never screwed up and they did 50+ or 100+ raids and never won a dragonstorm. Then again, some random guy shows up and ninja's a good loot(and does several ****** during the raid, although I typed my ass off before to explain to him what to do) and never shows up again. One of the guys won a DS with -19 and attended around 50 raids, and many more started with -20 and never complained to me. Why? Maybe because they understand that I am the one that has to be there earlier than others(sometimes 2 hours), spam /lfg, ask every single person do they know what to do, if they don't then I need to type my ass off to explain what and how. I am the one pressing macros, watching what other people do, typing to many of them during raid and so on. When battlegroup starts, practically everyone can go AFK, but I need to stay and invest my time in bulding the battlegroup. Yet I am the bad guy xD. Many guys attended raids with -20 and a lot of times they won 2x respec stone or 1x respec stone +dragon staff/hauberk of valhalla/seer shield/zerk sleeves/warrior shield, and at least they are GUARANTEED 1 stone. Tell me if there is any way to make such easy money on this server in 1 hour without putting any effort in organizing anything, and I will gladly attend it. Oh wait, I am the one wasting my time and organizing, so I guess it's not that easy for me. Can you please tell me who you are, how many raids have you lead, how many times have you given free armor/weps to people(not crap)? I just love people who like to put no effort but expect to be treated equally like ones that are consistently reliable and get the same treatment. Anyhow, I am done talking to people that don't understand some things. Lead 300+ raids, give away as many stones,mp chain, random yar/dragon/princes items, done templates and other things as I gave away, then you have the right to comment what is fair and what's not.
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Postby Dirtymind » Mar 06, 2013 12:21

There are no unfair raids, except they change rules during raid or steal loot.

If you do not like the rules, do not join - nobody forces you to do so. I do not know about mid templates, but for decent alb templates you do not need dragon drops.

I imagine organizing that many people is a pain in the ass, and you need strong nerves. Even organizing xp groups and keep em going with so many instant leavers, afk-guys, bad players was a major pain in the ass for me, so I'll never organize grps bigger than 5, except taking friends or guildmates with me.
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Postby Raggnar » Mar 06, 2013 12:32

Dirtymind wrote:There are no unfair raids, except they change rules during raid or steal loot.

If you do not like the rules, do not join - nobody forces you to do so. I do not know about mid templates, but for decent alb templates you do not need dragon drops.

I imagine organizing that many people is a pain in the ass, and you need strong nerves. Even organizing xp groups and keep em going with so many instant leavers, afk-guys, bad players was a major pain in the ass for me, so I'll never organize grps bigger than 5, except taking friends or guildmates with me.


XP and battlegrounds groups are the worst if you are not with friends. I just love when a random shammy and his friend join an exp group, and both are fully buffed with guy saying OOC for others xD. Anyhow, as far as raids go, once you get a decent pool of people, it's alright(although some still tend to slack). And no, for a decent Midgard template you do not need dragon drops. If nothing, my raiding system is still the fastest way to get money for your upcoming template. You can often get 2 stones or one item you can sell+stone. Some guys made insta 6-9 plat by selling dragonmight/dragonfury/hauberk of valhalla + stone they won. Also, many times they got 2 stones which is 3 plat for 1 hour(if you take your time and patience to advertise and not just insta sell them for 1 plat each, well even then it's 2 plat).
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"He was concerned only with the naked fundamentals of life. The warm intimacies of small, kindly things, the sentiments and delicious trivialities that make up so much of civilized men's lives were meaningless to him. A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs. Bloodshed and violence and savagery were the natural elements of the life Conan knew; he could not, and would never, understand the little things that are so dear to civilized men and women."

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Postby Celteen » Mar 07, 2013 03:08

I have an extra skald alt parked at lair (Bondulur rocks! ;p) just for those raids and it's really hell a lot easier to just log him in 30 min before raid start and go afk till Ronk and co walked everyone there ^^
If they get better odds it's fine with me.

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Postby Raggnar » Mar 07, 2013 03:23

Celteen wrote:I have an extra skald alt parked at lair (Bondulur rocks! ;p) just for those raids and it's really hell a lot easier to just log him in 30 min before raid start and go afk till Ronk and co walked everyone there ^^
If they get better odds it's fine with me.

A raid robot :oops:


Hahha yes, haven't seen you in months on DR's though :S.
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"He was concerned only with the naked fundamentals of life. The warm intimacies of small, kindly things, the sentiments and delicious trivialities that make up so much of civilized men's lives were meaningless to him. A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs. Bloodshed and violence and savagery were the natural elements of the life Conan knew; he could not, and would never, understand the little things that are so dear to civilized men and women."

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Postby bawww » Mar 08, 2013 08:02

That's all nice and dandy but let's he honest, that's the basics. If you want to move away from the basic level of Dragonslaying pm this guy ucp.php?i=pm&mode=compose&u=3989
You might have to be persistent a bit because he doesn't openly admit to being the LGM Dragonslayer
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Postby Daene » Mar 08, 2013 09:05

majky666 wrote:If you join Midgardian dragon raid as newbie,you have no chance to get any of top items because stupid raid rules
http://uthgard.net/en/forum/viewtopic.p ... ragon+raid


This Rules are only from Ivann and for Ivann's DragonRaids.

So dont call it 'Midgardian' DragonRaids pls cause its dont count for all Midgardian DRs.
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