There is one guy, smokee or however he is named, who has been killing the dragon 1-2 hours before the weekly scheduled public dragon raid which takes place in Albion. This behaviour is absolutely against the community because he ruins fun for up to 100 people by doing this. The fact, that he is fully aware of ruining and destroying the game- and community-experience for so many people makes it even worse.

According to

§2.12 Negative behavior on the gameserver or in other community parts
In a case of negative behavior of a player on the gameserver or in other parts of the Uthgard community, the staff has the right to take actions without a written rule that prohibits the behavior/action. The staff has the right to punish the acting player if necessary.

(see: http://www.uthgard.net/en/rules) this player can be made responsible for his destructive behaviour. Thus, Uthgard staff is well adviced to prevent further highly negative behaviour of the mentioned subject because it will eventually lead to a desperation amongst albion players.

In the light of high prices on dragon drops in Albion (compared to other realms) his behaviour turns out to be even more wicked: part time players (the group I count myself into) have almost no chances to raid the dragon and recieve respec stones and other valuable items due to the lack of disposable spare time. Hence, this smokee makes it nearly impossible to build a solid template for high end RvR as Albion has got minor jewelery drops beside the dragon, let alone tajendi II.

Therefore, I hereby appeal to the Uthgard Staff to talk to the specific player and ensure that he does not harm the community any more. At the same time, I appeal to all the members of Albion not to coop (don't group, don't buy, simply ignore him in any possible way) with this guy as he needs to be aware that such a destructive behaviour does lead to consequences.

Thank you!

And what is the exploit? That players can kill the dragon with 2 FG's?

I think the problem lies in the fact that the dragons are too predictable and easy and do not really require large amount of players. Thats our task as staff to make these encounters challenging enough to involve more players.

How can dragon be "fun" with 100 people? It dies in 15-20 minutes with 2 FGs, can't imagine it lasts very long with 100. These "official" raids aren't backed by the staff so he really isn't doing anything wrong.

Austerim wrote:How can dragon be "fun" with 100 people? It dies in 15-20 minutes with 2 FGs, can't imagine it lasts very long with 100. These "official" raids aren't backed by the staff so he really isn't doing anything wrong.

Well, we don't back it but the intent of raid encounters is surely to involve more than some 16 players. Else we get another elitist ego gameplay.

Target strength is about 25-40 players for a highend encounter.

Blue wrote:And what is the exploit? That players can kill the dragon with 2 FG's?

I think the problem lies in the fact that the dragons are too predictable and easy and do not really require large amount of players. Thats our task as staff to make these encounters challenging enough to involve more players.

I hope you guys bring back the livelike droprate ( 25 Ra stones 25 Full stones ) too when you do that

You guys removed drops without adding any so now we get even less drops. Why bother bringing more people if it's hard enough to get 16 people a drop now?

Smokey wrote:I hope you guys bring back the livelike droprate ( 25 Ra stones 25 Full stones ) too when you do that

Sure, we will scale the droprates on the minimum count of players required. And theres a lot dropping for just 2 FG's right now.

those 'official raids' where the raidleader magically bets 1-2 points more on the dragon rings,

yes for sure official and supported by staff

at smokeys raids at least everyone gets a respec each raid not each 2-3 like on 'official'
and the loot is handled fair, you don't see the raid leaders get all the good drops every time

What's wrong with everyone getting a drop and a few people getting a second, crappy drop?

I cannot believe what I read. If not this behaviour, which else is going to violate §2.12?? And since you dont want uthgard to be a "elitist" egogame you should be concerned about that, blue. I am very disappointed by you, blue - never thought you would let down the community of albion...

Maybe it is time to quit daoc and go with good memories...I should take this as a sign. Daoc was fun when people had realm pride, not selfish ego raiders..

Blue wrote: Else we get another elitist ego gameplay.

Seems like you are as good informed as my complaining realm mate

Since i decided to do Dragonraids more often, the Housing price for Full respecs dropped to about 1.5-1.8p from 4p
Ra respec stones dropped to 1.5-1.8 from 3-3.5 aswell.
Its the same for the Drops ( maybe except the rings since they rarely drop )

So if you join your point based raid, you need atleast 2 runs to get even a respec stones, and since stones of cleansing + artificer stones no longer drop at dragon, i guess the price for them on public raids wont be even lower.

Ofc maybe the chance to get a specific drop is higher on public raids. But seriously with 60+ people on every raid, increasing their points exponential to the amount and price for the drops you will end up wasting a huge amount of time getting your drop.
Since mostly "public raid leaders" or one of their friends wins the rings in a magical way

Anyways, Dragon was up for "official" raid and you didnt do him neither

Blue wrote:

Smokey wrote:I hope you guys bring back the livelike droprate ( 25 Ra stones 25 Full stones ) too when you do that

Sure, we will scale the droprates on the minimum count of players required. And theres a lot dropping for just 2 FG's right now.

wasnt it livelike to get 50 respec stones on every raid? same as doing Dragon with 16 ppl, with old Ra´s and MW3 castergrp also doable with 1 fg.

i hereby declare that form now on, i will lead a daily, public evern raid. please make sure it is up at 8 pm cet or else ban the players involved in killing it before.

i hope you get the point, freinkegi.

shintari wrote:i hereby declare that form now on, i will lead a daily, public evern raid. please make sure it is up at 8 pm cet or else ban the players involved in killing it before.

i hope you get the point, freinkegi.

not legit, there is no .de.vu domain to make it official, sry mate i will also farm evern every day now haha

This topic is absurd and will get locked soon.