ForumOFFICIAL 8vs8 Thread
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wollmilchsau^^ Die Eierlegende ! *lachtot just insert random hib/alb names from different part of the world together in a bg, instead of holsten besorger spakkaossa...and you will realize ... naaaaaaaah i don't think you will realize anything at all. oh wait, its the elitists vs. elitists thread here, i am not supposed to be here, i realize that now  Last edited by Sumosan on Feb 06, 2013 16:31, edited 1 time in total.
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A lot of people in my realm like and respect me, else no one would come if i ask them to zerg. And i care about the fun and time of the people in my realm, that i don't care much if my enemy has fun and enjoys his time is true and a fatal flaw in my personality.  And you know as good as me that you can't do better in a total pug against the usual pool grps, there is nothing to fix. You will never have any chance as long as you don't add or outnumber them. But keep on proposing to the pug grps that fair 8vs8 is the only true way to play daoc, just to farm them easily over and over... where is your respect for them? Ah i forgot, randoms are not in IRC, so they are no human beings  And don't think zerging is a lot of ar pee. 8vs8, even if it is a bad day, is 2-3 times higher rp/h. |
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your rp/h was not as good yesterday, yes  |
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Holsten are you really saying zerging and adding gives less rp than straight 8v8? This goes maybe for the people that "respect" you and follow u in the zerg being pugs and randoms, but at the end its your group that gets most of the rps as this is the only real purpose u have. If you have enough guildis on you run in 8man (still adding ofc) or run hibs and even help them to take mids relics. Why do you think ur rr12 and DG at Nr.2 of total rps, because zerg and add doesnt give much rp? jeah right.. anyway i dont care about zergs much, i've lead the biggest zergs on this server i guess but i just dislike pussys like you that do things out of totally egoistic motives while successfully making people believe u do it out of realmpride or helpfulness.
OT: We got raped hard today by requiem and i played ****** on my merc. Bad to no communication in TS, general weakness on our Sorcs and Clerics too. We talked alot after Req went offline what was the problems. Basically i see our weakness in constant char and playerswapping even inside the guild + not enough TS communication during the fight. Would like to see a statement by Req |
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Holsten zergs due to realmpride and helpfulness  <<< This avatar is handmade by Inotor Wurzelbert : ) Check out the Mampfer-Threads for more. viewtopic.php?f=10&t=25079 viewtopic.php?f=10&t=26934 |
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i dont run often lately, but generally it gets difficult if you push harder with everything, espacially on the eld. if one merc gets stunned there has to be the 2nd/3rd on the eld or a cleric for a short rupt. i was quiet free now and then since ur mercs turned around or dindt push me. enough for 3-4 nukes and one merc is down
 but since kelo is mighty spear again it is a little bit easier to withstand that hard pushing alb grps. and of course, i was in that grp today, nothing you can do against that  |
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No communication will always be a reason to let you fail. Nonetheless there are lots of general things you could do different that would have a huge impact, but I feel you don't try new tactics ever, I don't even think you have any tactic except trying to kill the eld  I could tell you exactly what to do with which character, but I decided to make a riddle and let you think about it, here are the hints. Pala <-> reaver ->druid pets -> Cold res -> Endu dd charges -> charge -> slam immunity -> bard -> Pd4-5 -> slash merc(trash merc) moc on theurg ->purge ->guard -> slam immunity -> demezz range splitspec sorc -> cold debuff -> pressure |
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would you please stop telling our enemies how they could beat us? tvm!
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Don't pretend that it would be a big mysterious
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I don't play any of the classes mentioned (except for a level 35 AT pala ), but i understand your riddle quite clear...however, in the midst of an inc or a fight it's not always easy to do the things, which would be perfect for the moment...maybe reaver and merc are on a caster whatsoever, that is almost down..then they won't switch to the bard, even though that would be the better option...also sorcs have so much to do with cc (whih includes amnesia and stuff) in the first 30s of a combat, it's hard to check the MA-target and debuff, though that would help a lot as well...besides there's a lot of things to consider...if the sorc is being attacked he can't debuff the bard...should the reaver pick another target then, because the bard can't be debuffed? should he guard to sorc or attack the eld?...very often there's situations, where 2 or even 3 options seem equally important...a good grp will decide as one and all do the same most of the time....in bad grps, usually pugs without at least 3 ppl that play with each other quite often or have massive experience, ppl decide on their own....the train goes for the bard, which the sorc mezzed half a second ago...the therug sends pets for the druid, to rupt him, though caby and sorc are already nuking him down... thus such a guide is a good idea but in practice it's almost impossible to act according to it...due to being online very infrequent i often run in pugs....most of the times with rr4-6 players, which don't really know how to play and i know what the problem is, but i dunno how to solve it...and even when i run on non-pugs (like if a higher grp got a free slot for caby), i see the problems usually and even with TS it's hard to avoid these... Genuine Spirit Cabalist since 2002
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Damn, I dont get that riddle, tbh. And stop flaming Holsten for zerging. He never pretends to be a nicefighter, so let him do what he wants to do. The frontiers are big enough for every kind of rvr. And i wouldnt post screens like Wollmilchsau did. It is a bit embarrassing for u guys, that u post things like that. Maybe i should have screened all the querrys (or is it querries?) from all the ppl in irc, that wrote to me how hard it is to fight us or that they wont run, if we run too and things like that. Also ppl from your grp were amongst them.  So enjoy the time u have right now and the descent grp u are running, but dont makes jokes about other ppl in public or the jokes will be made about u. |
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Sure adding is a good source of rp, i never denied that. Killing solos is an even better. Zerging on tbe other hand is stressful job for the leader and rewards you with a very low rp income. To say i zerg for rp's is just... wrong. If it happens (like once every 3 months) that we get our best grp together and agree on not even adding (not so hard if you know you are the best grp, and that is all i blame most (not all!) of the 8v8 players for. it's just the same selfishness hidden under the cloak of "fairplay, interesting fights, e-sport bla bla") just pure 8vs8 we have at least 15k rp/h average normally. While in a zerg, even on a good day, you can be happy with 5k rp/h. So i agree i care the most for my fun in the game and everything, but who doesn't? The zerg leading on the other hand i do only if i feel up to (drunk) and mostly for the pug players in my realm and not for me (what do i care about 10k rp on an evening? it is 0,04% to 12L1...), and that is the truth. I like to join total pug grps (and when i say pug grps i mean real pug grps, not a grp of players you know they play good but not in the normal setup) when dg in inactive. I never feel "too good to join a pug or zerg" or care about my reputation. And i adopt to everything the grp wants, if they don't want to add or kill solos, i don't do it or ask them to etc. And quite often i am surprised to see how good some players perform in such pug grps. |
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Felt good to play again last night even if we did lose some fights in 30 seconds flat.
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