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Frendir Gryphon Knight Posts: 418 Joined: Jul 06, 2010 00:00	Reply with quote by Frendir » Jan 14, 2013 21:15 RonELuvv wrote: Frendir wrote:Keeplvl was 7 No, it wasnt. Red gaurds = 10. Xacrag explained already 3.5k = lvl7 Uth1: Tuennes HO Merc 8Lx <Nightwatch>, Frendir Dwarf Zerker 6Lx <Svalbard Ravens> Uth2:

Smokey Banned Posts: 1109 Joined: Jan 10, 2010 01:00 Location: Caerwent	Reply with quote by Smokey » Jan 14, 2013 21:20 RonELuvv wrote: Smokey wrote: RonELuvv wrote: *- I found out how they did it now. Should they be able to have theurg pets hitting the keep lord from the back hill because thats exactly what they were doing though I dont know if that is supposed to be done or not. well even if a theurg did do that ( which isnt even possible imo) theurgist pets will be 1-2 hit by lord and deal like 20-40 dmg each , as soon as the pet owner gets aggro, lord will engage him and reset after a few seconds > back to 100%. So i guess you need to do propper researches next time btw. what makes you think albs did it that way? Deal with it, levi + cold debuff > raping a keeplord Kelo said in irc 22 enemys, so 20-30 sec is not that quick, for that amount of ppl imo Lol, Smokey what makes me think they did it was because Ogmora seen them doing it from the moment they started working on the inner gate. Also, the lord wont come out for agro so you saying he will engage the theurg then reset is WRONG. They had a couple different Theurgs on the back hill behind and outside of Crauch that were unloading pets on the keep lord from the time they started on the 2nd gate inside until the keep was down. I find it VERY hard to believe that even with 3 reavers + cold debuff that you can kill a lvl 10 keep lord in 20 seconds. Let me rephrase that. There is NO way that happens. The last time I went after a lvl 10 keep we had over 24 people and it still took us well over 5 minutes to take him down and that was with celerity. The reason your reavers took the lord down so fast was probably because 20 minutes of 2 or 3 theurgs unloading pets on the lord and he was probably under 50% life by the time your 3 reavers got up there. 20-40 dmg... ok so if they each throw out 20-30 pets and there is 2-3 of them doing this that dmg adds up fast and now take that over 15-20 minutes it took them to get the inner tower gate down. We all know what a theurg can do on dmg wise with alot of pets so dont give me that "They only do 20-40 dmg" BS. Also, there might have been 21 in BG but there was only around 16 at the keep. I know that because I was there and counted. Listen, I know they were sending theurg pets on the lord for a LONG time before they went up as they were seen doing this. My question is simple. How did they get target, LOS, and in range to do this. They shouldn't be able to. I know my ranger cant get a target on the lord and even if I could get a target on the lord with my ranger I wouldnt be in a spot that gives me both LOS and is in range. So how are Theurg's doing it? Maybe I'm wrong and Theurgs have more range than I thought, but dont tell me it was because you had 3 reavers. I call BS on that. well seems like ogmora needs glasses i was in ts with both theurgists, and none of them did cast any pets from outside the keep and again, it was a lvl 7 keep its rly no big deal to get a lvl 7 keeplord down within 30 sec.. 150-220 dmg with levi every 1.5 seconds not that hard to believe for me imo Just make a callgm for bugusing, let gms waste their time with checking logs and close this sensless thread

Oswaldo Phoenix Knight Posts: 1503 Joined: Apr 10, 2011 22:53	Reply with quote by Oswaldo » Jan 14, 2013 21:27 Nerf reavers then! - Honey Badgers - Winkz

LindsayLohan Eagle Knight Posts: 649 Joined: Dec 12, 2011 12:47 Location: toulouse ( france )	Reply with quote by LindsayLohan » Jan 14, 2013 21:34 he's mad he wanted his 4k rps that's all

Sturlek Myrmidon Posts: 61 Joined: Dec 03, 2011 04:32	Reply with quote by Sturlek » Jan 14, 2013 21:49 Red guards = level 7 to 10 Orange guards = level 2 to 6 Yellow guards = level 1 The only way to know the exact level of the keep if guards are oj or red is to kill the lord and divide the number of rp's you get by 500.

RonELuvv Alerion Knight Posts: 1995 Joined: Apr 13, 2010 00:00	Reply with quote by RonELuvv » Jan 14, 2013 22:57 LindsayLohan wrote:he's mad he wanted his 4k rps that's all I could give less then a ****** about the rp's. I make more then enough killing your gimpy butt at AMG. I have been on LOTS of keep raids and unless they very recently changed it then red gaurds = lvl 10 keep. From lvl 6-9 it was oj gaurds, I have no clue when this changed. Also, the last time I went on a raid for a lvl 10 keep it took way more then 20 seconds to kill the lord with a big BG. Now you are right, I personally didnt witness the theurg's, but Ogmora asked me if they were attacking the lord. I asked why. He said they were spamming pets and they were going from behind the keep outside up to the keep lords room. Add from all of what I seen and the keep lord going down in 20 seconds and please tell me this post wasnt valid. Maybe Ogmora seen it wrong, or maybe I misunderstood him, but either way lords dont go down in 20 seconds based on mele alone w/ around 2 fg's of players. Keep saying it all you want, I've actually killed keep lords before guys....

RonELuvv Alerion Knight Posts: 1995 Joined: Apr 13, 2010 00:00	Reply with quote by RonELuvv » Jan 14, 2013 23:00 Loranos wrote:Well, not even sure if I should response to that absurd thread but as I was in one of the two groups -> Seriously Rone, thats nonsense. The lord was only orange (ok, could've been red, dont remember that in particular) and we just slammed him down with two tank grps. Better discuss if the hitpoints/af of the "higher" lords are calculated correct. Edit: 3500rps = lvl10? then yes You have ZERO clue about what you are talking about man. I was there!! The normal gaurds were red but the lord was orange?! WRONG.

Orihiime Phoenix Knight Posts: 1740 Joined: Dec 15, 2010 11:40	Reply with quote by Orihiime » Jan 14, 2013 23:00 levle 7 was always red guard, maybe you misstaked with door level 10, but level 7 guard was always red for sure 2012:<@[Uth]Abydos> If we don't have SI by the end of the year, Im fairly certain I wont be a GM anymore :-p

RonELuvv Alerion Knight Posts: 1995 Joined: Apr 13, 2010 00:00	Reply with quote by RonELuvv » Jan 14, 2013 23:02 Sturlek wrote:Red guards = level 7 to 10 Orange guards = level 2 to 6 Yellow guards = level 1 The only way to know the exact level of the keep if guards are oj or red is to kill the lord and divide the number of rp's you get by 500. Now I will admit that since they have made the changes to tasks/keep takes I havent done a ton of them, but I can say on my ranger I did ALOT of tasks and keep takes. Red Gaurds= 10 OJ Gaurds= 6-9 Yellow Gaurds= 1-5 I know this since we used to claim Crauch all the time and I would personally set the level of the keep and watch the gaurds change as it upgraded. Guess what? It was OJ gaurds until it hit level 10. Now this might have been changed since then, but this was what it was before.

Bloodwyne Phoenix Knight Posts: 1102 Joined: May 17, 2008 00:00	Reply with quote by Bloodwyne » Jan 14, 2013 23:30 dude.. rare keep is lvl 8 atm and has red guards..

RonELuvv Alerion Knight Posts: 1995 Joined: Apr 13, 2010 00:00	Reply with quote by RonELuvv » Jan 15, 2013 00:24 Once again, this might be the case now, but I'm telling you that 1 year ago The Covenant was taking Crauch every day and holding it for a week sometimes. When we were doing this out of curiosity I upgraded the keep in stages and watched the gaurds and what they conned. The gaurds, AT THAT TIME, were OJ until the keep became level 10. Once the keep hit level 10 the gaurds turned red. That is a fact. Besides, the main point I was trying to make was that according to Ogmora theurg's were sending pets at the keep lord from outside the keep on the back hill of Crauch. Regardless of the keep level I was asking if that was possible. Sombody else on here says they were not, Ogmora says they were. Can a theurg get a target on the keep lord and attack him from outside the keep? If he can is he supposed to be able to? Those are the questions I'm seeking answers for. Not what level a keep is depending on gaurds. Last edited by RonELuvv on Jan 15, 2013 00:26, edited 1 time in total.

Bloodwyne Phoenix Knight Posts: 1102 Joined: May 17, 2008 00:00	Reply with quote by Bloodwyne » Jan 15, 2013 00:25 things change dude, even on uthgard!

RonELuvv Alerion Knight Posts: 1995 Joined: Apr 13, 2010 00:00	Reply with quote by RonELuvv » Jan 15, 2013 00:34 Bloodwyne wrote:things change dude, even on uthgard! I know, that is why in my previous posts I said... RonELuvv wrote:I have been on LOTS of keep raids and unless they very recently changed it then red gaurds = lvl 10 keep. RonELuvv wrote:Now this might have been changed since then, but this was what it was before. Now, based on that fact that this was apparently a lvl 7 keep and apparently 2-3 reavers + cold debuff makes keep lords about as tough as a wet paper bag then I can see where they might have taken a lord down in 20 seconds. The only person that has yet to even answer my main questions about this has been Smokeys and I thank him for that. I would still like to know what Ogmora was watching when he seen theurg pets going from outside the keep to the inside of the keep.

Smokey Banned Posts: 1109 Joined: Jan 10, 2010 01:00 Location: Caerwent	Reply with quote by Smokey » Jan 15, 2013 01:38 np, just believe me next time :p we had gurki and zerpi with us, the 2 most lazy theurgists at keepraids / pvm, they would never even think about bugpetting a lord because this will assume work for them ( walking behind the keep and stuff)

Fortyseven Forum Moderator Posts: 643 Joined: Apr 01, 2009 00:00 Location: V.N. Milfontes, PT	Reply with quote by Fortyseven » Jan 15, 2013 15:46 Removed a single post and a warning has been issued to its author. Please do not derail from the topic to start trolling.