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Postby RonELuvv » Jan 13, 2013 04:24

Ok, I have to ask Spooki and his alb buddies how in the hell they killed a lvl 10 keep lord in under 20 seconds? I was on my hunter and seen the albs going for Crauch and decided I would stealth and follow them in after they got the doors down and try and earn a quick 5k rp's. I know, its cheap. Sue me. Either way, 2nd gate was down, they run in, I stealth and right as I get in the tower they kill the lord. The only thing I can think of was if they were somehow attacking the lord before they got the gates down. Is this supposed to be done? I dont mean to say anyone was cheating but something is weird when 2 fg's can kill a lvl 10 keep lord in under 20-30 seconds at most.

*- I found out how they did it now. Should they be able to have theurg pets hitting the keep lord from the back hill because thats exactly what they were doing though I dont know if that is supposed to be done or not.

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Postby Frendir » Jan 13, 2013 04:44

Keeplvl was 7
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Postby Infinitum » Jan 13, 2013 05:59

RonELuvv wrote:Ok, I have to ask Spooki and his alb buddies how in the hell they killed a lvl 10 keep lord in under 20 seconds? I was on my hunter and seen the albs going for Crauch and decided I would stealth and follow them in after they got the doors down and try and earn a quick 5k rp's. I know, its cheap. Sue me. Either way, 2nd gate was down, they run in, I stealth and right as I get in the tower they kill the lord. The only thing I can think of was if they were somehow attacking the lord before they got the gates down. Is this supposed to be done? I dont mean to say anyone was cheating but something is weird when 2 fg's can kill a lvl 10 keep lord in under 20-30 seconds at most.

*- I found out how they did it now. Should they be able to have theurg pets hitting the keep lord from the back hill because thats exactly what they were doing though I dont know if that is supposed to be done or not.



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Postby Akip » Jan 13, 2013 06:17

RonELuvv wrote:Ok, I have to ask Spooki and his alb buddies how in the hell they killed a lvl 10 keep lord in under 20 seconds? I was on my hunter and seen the albs going for Crauch and decided I would stealth and follow them in after they got the doors down and try and earn a quick 5k rp's. I know, its cheap. Sue me. Either way, 2nd gate was down, they run in, I stealth and right as I get in the tower they kill the lord. The only thing I can think of was if they were somehow attacking the lord before they got the gates down. Is this supposed to be done? I dont mean to say anyone was cheating but something is weird when 2 fg's can kill a lvl 10 keep lord in under 20-30 seconds at most.

*- I found out how they did it now. Should they be able to have theurg pets hitting the keep lord from the back hill because thats exactly what they were doing though I dont know if that is supposed to be done or not.


zack we had 3 reavers :)
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Postby Smokey » Jan 13, 2013 13:04

RonELuvv wrote:
*- I found out how they did it now. Should they be able to have theurg pets hitting the keep lord from the back hill because thats exactly what they were doing though I dont know if that is supposed to be done or not.


well even if a theurg did do that ( which isnt even possible imo) theurgist pets will be 1-2 hit by lord and deal like 20-40 dmg each Oo, as soon as the pet owner gets aggro, lord will engage him and reset after a few seconds > back to 100%.
So i guess you need to do propper researches next time :D
btw. what makes you think albs did it that way? Oo

Deal with it, levi + cold debuff > raping a keeplord :D
Kelo said in irc 22 enemys, so 20-30 sec is not that quick, for that amount of ppl imo

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Postby Akip » Jan 13, 2013 15:29

21 -1 from zack :P and some others i guess ^^
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Postby Orihiime » Jan 13, 2013 15:40

Smokey wrote:Kelo said in irc 22 enemys


Ppl giving rvr info in irc is still tolerated ??? This make die the server !!!!!!
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Postby Lifioch » Jan 13, 2013 16:10

Orihiime wrote:
Smokey wrote:Kelo said in irc 22 enemys


Ppl giving rvr info in irc is still tolerated ??? This make die the server !!!!!!

I thought it's only allowed to talk english in the rvr forum ??? :roll:

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Postby Orihiime » Jan 13, 2013 16:21

Lifioch wrote:
Orihiime wrote:
Smokey wrote:Kelo said in irc 22 enemys


Ppl giving rvr info in irc is still tolerated ??? This make die the server !!!!!!

I thought it's only allowed to talk english in the rvr forum ??? :roll:

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Postby RonELuvv » Jan 14, 2013 17:21

Smokey wrote:
RonELuvv wrote:
*- I found out how they did it now. Should they be able to have theurg pets hitting the keep lord from the back hill because thats exactly what they were doing though I dont know if that is supposed to be done or not.


well even if a theurg did do that ( which isnt even possible imo) theurgist pets will be 1-2 hit by lord and deal like 20-40 dmg each Oo, as soon as the pet owner gets aggro, lord will engage him and reset after a few seconds > back to 100%.
So i guess you need to do propper researches next time :D
btw. what makes you think albs did it that way? Oo

Deal with it, levi + cold debuff > raping a keeplord :D
Kelo said in irc 22 enemys, so 20-30 sec is not that quick, for that amount of ppl imo



Lol, Smokey what makes me think they did it was because Ogmora seen them doing it from the moment they started working on the inner gate. Also, the lord wont come out for agro so you saying he will engage the theurg then reset is WRONG. They had a couple different Theurgs on the back hill behind and outside of Crauch that were unloading pets on the keep lord from the time they started on the 2nd gate inside until the keep was down. I find it VERY hard to believe that even with 3 reavers + cold debuff that you can kill a lvl 10 keep lord in 20 seconds. Let me rephrase that. There is NO way that happens. The last time I went after a lvl 10 keep we had over 24 people and it still took us well over 5 minutes to take him down and that was with celerity. The reason your reavers took the lord down so fast was probably because 20 minutes of 2 or 3 theurgs unloading pets on the lord and he was probably under 50% life by the time your 3 reavers got up there. 20-40 dmg... ok so if they each throw out 20-30 pets and there is 2-3 of them doing this that dmg adds up fast and now take that over 15-20 minutes it took them to get the inner tower gate down. We all know what a theurg can do on dmg wise with alot of pets so dont give me that "They only do 20-40 dmg" BS. Also, there might have been 21 in BG but there was only around 16 at the keep. I know that because I was there and counted.

Listen, I know they were sending theurg pets on the lord for a LONG time before they went up as they were seen doing this. My question is simple. How did they get target, LOS, and in range to do this. They shouldn't be able to. I know my ranger cant get a target on the lord and even if I could get a target on the lord with my ranger I wouldnt be in a spot that gives me both LOS and is in range. So how are Theurg's doing it? Maybe I'm wrong and Theurgs have more range than I thought, but dont tell me it was because you had 3 reavers. I call BS on that.

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Postby RonELuvv » Jan 14, 2013 18:15

Frendir wrote:Keeplvl was 7


No, it wasnt. Red gaurds = 10. :wall:

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Postby Loranos » Jan 14, 2013 18:26

Well, not even sure if I should response to that absurd thread but as I was in one of the two groups -> Seriously Rone, thats nonsense.

The lord was only orange (ok, could've been red, dont remember that in particular) and we just slammed him down with two tank grps. Better discuss if the hitpoints/af of the "higher" lords are calculated correct.

Edit: 3500rps = lvl10? then yes

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Postby Xacrag » Jan 14, 2013 18:28

3500 rps = LvL 7...

and guards are not only red with Keeplvl 10 :) lvl9 f.e. they red too.
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Postby Ichi » Jan 14, 2013 19:32

Keep lords are extremely vulnerable to magical damage whereas melee damage on them is laughable. I used to solo even red lords with my animist(back when archer guards didn't magically insta-aggro all kinds of pets), it's entirely possible to kill them this fast. Don't need shrooms either, enough bombs or yeah, things like levi will get them down in no time.

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Postby Magicco » Jan 14, 2013 20:12

melee damage on guards/keeplords is a mess
not sure why and who implemented this that way

guards and lords have more hp on live than a same colored mob, but they have no trolol AF/Absorb...

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