Cruell wrote:Myth tried a lot of setups and because of the size of our guild we didn't often run with the same 8 people twice, but we paid our dues and although we lost most of our fights against the good 8mans for over a year we did finally improve a bit ( its a lot harder to 8v8 when your 50 then it was when i was 40).

But what we really learned is that its as much the right 8 people as it is the set up. We finally had real success when we made our 8man from the alliance. We got together 8 people that really clicked as a team and we could and did compete against every guild. Our best set up was 2 cleric, 1 pally, 1 mind sorc, 2 body sorcs and 2 cabby's.


/cheers

I saw a fga in hadrian with a smilar(guess 2 cabba 2 sorc) setup yesterday. That was the hardest alb group I ever fought. We had a fg vs fg mmg in hadrian then dottor added with a group of 4. We won then. Later we were on rene with 2 fg. This fga came again and they camped rena. Cause this hard castersetup it was not possible for us to go inside rena. After 15 min a second fga came from behind and kited some of us away and then the fga (inside rena) pushed, so we wiped.
Our warrior was instant down when this 4 caster assisted. I had to use also ip to survive and run behind the wall.

Really a good setup. (I remember wollmilchsau was in this group) He slammed and then the caster nuked all in 2sec down ^^

I'd give my left nut for some balance changes. Dunno how many more months/years of the same setups on every realm I can take.

Just imagine, Wizards, Friars, Champions, Bonedancers in actual 8v8 instead of epic charge3 light tanks everywhere.

yup yup

hmmm cant remember we camped renaris

Then it was a other group maybe Most were rr4. Saw also one rr3.

Tiberian1986 wrote:Then it was a other group maybe Most were rr4. Saw also one rr3.

I think you're confusing our group <Built to Last> with other groups? :S

rr3's and rr4's sounds like us !

As long as these "arrangements" are done in public so everyone can react to them

With this statement you tell everyone, that arranged 8vs8 fights in public are legal....
Wow! another step to destroy the RVR on this server..

And this come from a "gamemaster" .... a staffmember who should know the rules of Uthgard!
Why not change the rules to "arranged fights in public are allowed" "public duel arrangements allowed?"
you punish arranged 1vs1 duels and tolerate arranged 8vs8! Arranged 8vs8 is nothing more, than a arranged duel between 8 Players...
Very sad, how the staff regulate and destroy the RVR, cause of few 8vs8 player.

Topaz wrote:

As long as these "arrangements" are done in public so everyone can react to them

With this statement you tell everyone, that arranged 8vs8 fights in public are legal....
Wow! another step to destroy the RVR on this server..

And this come from a "gamemaster" .... a staffmember who should know the rules of Uthgard!
Why not change the rules to "arranged fights in public are allowed" "public duel arrangements allowed?"
you punish arranged 1vs1 duels and tolerate arranged 8vs8! Arranged 8vs8 is nothing more, than a arranged duel between 8 Players...
Very sad, how the staff regulate and destroy the RVR, cause of few 8vs8 player.

Here we go again U simply don't get it right Topaz, arrangements like "lets meet here at XX:XX" are strictly forbidden and this is good. But saying in chats theres a zerg in hadrians/odins/emain or theres 2 alb fg in /hadrians/odins/emain is not arranging anything, thats just sharing of information.

Well guys preventing an 8 man grp runing in a area (for example hadrians wall) alone w8ing for inc is a good thing.
I dont think that telling in irc that your 8 man is moving to hadrians is a bad thing at all, you ll eventually meet
the enemy and ofc you play the game for the action and not the site seeing of an area.Anything more is forbiten
from the gms and i also agree with all that.

As for the 8 man topic i prefer the good old fashion 2 mercs sorc theu 2 cleris pala and arms set up .As second
choice i would go for caba set up even if now days with hard push enemy tank set ups with sos has a slight
disadvantage.
For the record i tryed 2 sorc 2 caba 2 cleric theu and me was fun and painfull for the enemy . But at that time no
hard grps out so we didnt had a good test on the set up.

_Oglop_ wrote:I think you're confusing our group <Built to Last> with other groups? :S

rr3's and rr4's sounds like us !

don't forget the sexy green rr8 !
I remember that fight.

Topaz wrote:

As long as these "arrangements" are done in public so everyone can react to them

With this statement you tell everyone, that arranged 8vs8 fights in public are legal....
Wow! another step to destroy the RVR on this server..

And this come from a "gamemaster" .... a staffmember who should know the rules of Uthgard!
Why not change the rules to "arranged fights in public are allowed" "public duel arrangements allowed?"
you punish arranged 1vs1 duels and tolerate arranged 8vs8! Arranged 8vs8 is nothing more, than a arranged duel between 8 Players...
Very sad, how the staff regulate and destroy the RVR, cause of few 8vs8 player.

And it took only 2 pages for some guy that has no interest in the actual subject to derail the topic with some clueless blabber.

skdante wrote:
As for the 8 man topic i prefer the good old fashion 2 mercs sorc theu 2 cleris pala and arms set up

I'd disagree.

i would go with healer, healer, shaman, warri, skald, 3 zerker all RR10-12 and its quite easy here.

holsten-knight wrote:i would go with healer, healer, shaman, warri, skald, 3 zerker all RR10-12 and its quite easy here.

until the supports get petted. I really dont understand why mids dont run more supp RMs, they seem like perfect addition to tank group, hell any group, with red NS, red PBT, aoe for petclear and snarenukes. Or am I missing something?

poplik wrote:

holsten-knight wrote:i would go with healer, healer, shaman, warri, skald, 3 zerker all RR10-12 and its quite easy here.

until the supports get petted. I really dont understand why mids dont run more supp RMs, they seem like perfect addition to tank group, hell any group, with red NS, red PBT, aoe for petclear and snarenukes. Or am I missing something?

Well with 3x charge 3 and aotg, hard to stay alive as a theu, even if i would switch one of the 3 zerker for another warrior for have a slam in front