How much of this is true: http://camelotvault.ign.com/?dir=guides ... ent=hunter

Questions:
1. Hunter has 100% chance to stay hidden when firing a regular shot/ 88% for crit shot (with 50 composite stealth), true? (bottom of 7).
2. Shape shifting and tracking? I never heard of hunters having that discussion. Tracking would be cool.
3. is section 25 correct?
4. what is dex cap, how easy is it to hit on uthgard? Is there a qui cap or a speed cap?
5. Will rr+ to skill give me the spell/styles?
6. Is the gear in the index in the game, if not, is there a process to request it being added?

note: volley is part of bow spec, this says it's an RA.
Thank you, I've been gone a while and I'm just coming back. Please avoid/ignore off topic and flames.

1. True for normal. On Uthgard it seems to be a lot lower than 88% for crit.

2. Never happened. Tracking might be 'Call of the Hounds', but we do not have it here.

3. No off parry here.

4. No caps. Even if there were, you would not hit them with a hunter.

5. No. Hard points only.

6. A lot of it can already be found, but if you come across something that can not be found. Then use this thread http://uthgard.net/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=1516&start=225

Volley is part of bow spec because of 1.80 base here. It is rather broken though.
Common to see 5-arrow volley right on top of a target hit nothing.

(Your post is a mess. I had to go through that entire linked site to understand it.)

Thank you for the reply.

1. With 50 composite stealth you have 0% chance of coming unstealthed on normal and rapid fire shots. It is a 20% chance on crit shots of coming unstealthed. Those numbers came from a GM on these threads.

2. Shape shifting and tracking are not on this server. The only thing along these lines on live that I recall were the call of hounds ability and that is not on this server.

3. Hunters dont have parry.

4. Dex cap does not exist. You can take it up as far as you would like. Quickness cap is pretty much at 250, which can be hit as a hunter, but only on certain races and with at least 40 Beast craft.

5. I'm assuming you are talking about + to skills from RR such as at RR8 you would be +18 to all skills, that will not give you spell or styles. Those must be spec'd into to get.

6. Check with what Fjott said. ^^

Volley is part of bow spec as long as we have New RA's. At lvl 35 you get Volley 1 (3 arrows), at 40 you get Volley 2 (4 arrows), 45 you get Volley 3 (5 arrows), and at 50 you get Volley 4 (6 arrows.)

Ty RonELuvv

on my detaunt there is a high defense (greater evade?), and on my taunt +hit, are theses on timers? i.e. I get a defense bonus for 30 sec, or just until next hit? Also do they stack? So if I get 2 detaunts, does my defense bonus double? Lastly, do we know what percent theses bonuses give us? I wonder because alternating the two could be a good way to boost evade and set up the evade combo. Thank you answering my endless questions.

The + to style bonuses are not timed. They act for the next hit in line. So if you do a detaunt you will receive a slight bonuse to defense on the next swing of the opponent. That may result in a miss by him or even an evade by you, but it will only be there for the following hit. The same applies to the + bonus you get to hitting on taunts/positionals, except that the + to hit bonus is applied to that particular swing.

They dont stack in essence, but if you kept on using the taunt then every next hit you would receive the same bonus to hit on the next swing. Same with detaunt. So as an example: You swing w/ detaunt and hit (receive slight bonus to defense), enemy swings and misses you (bonuse to defense it now gone), you swing wi detaunt and hit again (receive same slight bonuse to defense), enemy swings and hits you for x amount of dmg. I could not tell you the exact %'s for the bonuses. If you delve them in game it will give you an idea of how effective it is. You are right though, there are times against certain opponents that using a detaunt on occasion instead of your taunt/positional styles might be better used. Most people I know (myself included) have a very offensive mindset. I prefer anything that has high to hit bonus and high dmg with moderate end usage. Really the only time I use detaunts is during PvE when I want to make sure I am not getting agro.

Thanks again Ron. I was told we do not get point blank shot. Is this true, if so did we get something else, or did it suddenly make hunters OP? (I've never heard anyone call hunters OP LOL)
Also, is it possible to get crit shot down to 1.5 delay?

You do not get point blank shot here. That was after they changed bow to a castable on live. Here you can get Rapid Fire (lvl 35, 1/2 speed- 1/2 dmg- same end usage), Rapid Fire 2 (lvl 45, 1/2 speed-1/2 dmg-1/2 end usage), Sure Shot (lvl 45 non interupatable from range bow shot that pops and penetrates bt for half dmg- great for casters), and then we also get the Volley 1-4.

There is NO way you will ever get a crit shot down to 1.5 seconds. On my hunter I run w/ 2 crated bows (slow and fast). My crit shot on my hunter with the slow bow is 3.8 spd and rapid fire is 1.6 spd. With my fast bow I believe my crit shot is like at 3.5 and rapid fire is 1.3 (actually 1.5 since cap spd is 1.5 seconds). So yah, there is no way you would ever see a crit shot at 1.5 and prolly never even under 3.0 spd.

Returning player and could someone clarify some things on the hunter. The masochist in me misses playing Hunter class but I am curious;

What is currently broken with Hunter? I read through some threads and am confused as far what is working and what is not:

1) Are pets broken and if so, how?
2) Not a broken question but - how viable are Hunters end game RvR here on Uthgard? Are they even grouped in PUG here?

Recommend spec for Uthgard? I know this question is a bit broad but let's assume (and assume correctly, I think) I'm not getting much buffs from a friendly shammy. I don't know the community well enough to determine how friendly or unfriendly it is but I'm optimistic.

Thanks folks

From what i read on the forum :

This class is concerned by few missing mechanics of Uthgard :
1 - No defense reduction by weaponskill, so hunter don't get benefit from his higher WS to penetrate defense
2 - Pet (and mob) damage lower than they should be
3 - Effect of buff on pet are lower than they should be

Spec :
Something like 39 spear / 35 bow / 42 beastcraft / 36 stealth.
And most important, Anytime from behind V (also called 'Lag master')

On 1vs1 with my merc in Wilton, a well stuffed hunter was a hard target to kill. But i was running unbuffed, and that's not the case of soloer in end game.

devinicus67 wrote:Returning player and could someone clarify some things on the hunter. The masochist in me misses playing Hunter class but I am curious;

What is currently broken with Hunter? I read through some threads and am confused as far what is working and what is not:

1) Are pets broken and if so, how?
2) Not a broken question but - how viable are Hunters end game RvR here on Uthgard? Are they even grouped in PUG here?

Recommend spec for Uthgard? I know this question is a bit broad but let's assume (and assume correctly, I think) I'm not getting much buffs from a friendly shammy. I don't know the community well enough to determine how friendly or unfriendly it is but I'm optimistic.

Thanks folks

1) Pets are broken because the Mob dmg calculation has mob dmg too low on this server and that effects all pets as well. Blue is aware of the problem and has been working on it for a long time. So yes, pets do indeed hit for less then what they are supposed to.

2) Hunters are VERY viable in end game RvR if you can invest in a very nice template with all the nice charges, are willing to run with buff pots, and will actually learn how to play the class rather than just adding in fights from afar w/ ur bow and running away.

Alot of people say that 2h dmg is off on this server, but I dont see that at all. I hit for between 140-160 on unstyled swings w/ my spear and I hit for between 170-250 on styled swings on my spear. If that dmg is broke then I would hate to see what kind of dmg I can do on the new system. Hulkgris is right, that weapon skill is a tad broke here and doesnt really factor into getting threw block/parry/ etc...

You said something about a friendly shaman. That will not work here. Buffs have a range on them on this server. About the only thing a person could do is throw you aoe buffs and those only last 10 minutes so are not feasible. If you want to play any class solo on this server you need a good, fully maxxed template and you need to have an alchemist so you can at least run w/ base pots (str/dex/con). If you dont do that then you will have a hard time competing in solo RvR here. Also, dont expect an invite on your hunter into group action. It does happen, but not often. Even if you do get grouped, they will want you to be a MoS bot, and those stealthers that you help find and kill will remember you and get you back when your alone....