Ok, so he is 20 RR's higher then me. I was estimating. Sue me.

Regardless, he is a much higher RR then me and for being a bad class matchup due to high evade and viper I would say the class performs fine. I also beat Nitar, a 7L2 NS one out of 2 fights and the first fight I lost I had him down to under 5% life and had no RA's up. I also did this when I was 49.5 and had no purge. So hunters can beat assasins even when there is a big RR difference, allthough it is very tough due to viper and high evade.

if assasins evade too much vs u, you should just strafe better. they cant evade from the side, so just strafe and use anytimer from the side.

RonELuvv wrote:Ok, so he is 20 RR's higher then me. I was estimating. Sue me.

Regardless, he is a much higher RR then me and for being a bad class matchup due to high evade and viper I would say the class performs fine. I also beat Nitar, a 7L2 NS one out of 2 fights and the first fight I lost I had him down to under 5% life and had no RA's up. I also did this when I was 49.5 and had no purge. So hunters can beat assasins even when there is a big RR difference, allthough it is very tough due to viper and high evade.

Can you write a "How to play a Hunter" guide?
I love the Hunter class, but my experiences as a Hunter are horrible..^^
Maybe I do sth wrong, or it's the Sword spec (with shield to switch in)

Finalement wrote:

RonELuvv wrote:Ok, so he is 20 RR's higher then me. I was estimating. Sue me.

Regardless, he is a much higher RR then me and for being a bad class matchup due to high evade and viper I would say the class performs fine. I also beat Nitar, a 7L2 NS one out of 2 fights and the first fight I lost I had him down to under 5% life and had no RA's up. I also did this when I was 49.5 and had no purge. So hunters can beat assasins even when there is a big RR difference, allthough it is very tough due to viper and high evade.

Can you write a "How to play a Hunter" guide?
I love the Hunter class, but my experiences as a Hunter are horrible..^^
Maybe I do sth wrong, or it's the Sword spec (with shield to switch in)

Add and run (bow spec xD)

Jarqo wrote:

Finalement wrote:

RonELuvv wrote:Ok, so he is 20 RR's higher then me. I was estimating. Sue me.

Regardless, he is a much higher RR then me and for being a bad class matchup due to high evade and viper I would say the class performs fine. I also beat Nitar, a 7L2 NS one out of 2 fights and the first fight I lost I had him down to under 5% life and had no RA's up. I also did this when I was 49.5 and had no purge. So hunters can beat assasins even when there is a big RR difference, allthough it is very tough due to viper and high evade.

Can you write a "How to play a Hunter" guide?
I love the Hunter class, but my experiences as a Hunter are horrible..^^
Maybe I do sth wrong, or it's the Sword spec (with shield to switch in)

Add and run (bow spec xD)

I thought that would be Rangerspec?

Finalement wrote:

RonELuvv wrote:Ok, so he is 20 RR's higher then me. I was estimating. Sue me.

Regardless, he is a much higher RR then me and for being a bad class matchup due to high evade and viper I would say the class performs fine. I also beat Nitar, a 7L2 NS one out of 2 fights and the first fight I lost I had him down to under 5% life and had no RA's up. I also did this when I was 49.5 and had no purge. So hunters can beat assasins even when there is a big RR difference, allthough it is very tough due to viper and high evade.

Can you write a "How to play a Hunter" guide?
I love the Hunter class, but my experiences as a Hunter are horrible..^^
Maybe I do sth wrong, or it's the Sword spec (with shield to switch in)

I fully intend to do so once I have experienced the character a bit more. I wouldnt feel right giving a guide to a character that I have only played for a few months.

I can say that as of right now my spec is 39 spear, 42 beastcraft, 36 stealth, 35 bow. I am a norseman. Run w/ 2 crafted spears at 4.5 and 4.7 (thrust/keen). I try and open w/ at least 1-3 bow shots, then go right into mele. At the moment I pretty much just use my anytime 2 style which does .58 growth rate med end usage on opening and .88 growth rate and med end usage w/ snare on 2nd style. I will try and get the back stun off w/ the run threw/face method, but I havent really got very good at it yet. I would say I can get the stun off about every other fight. At the moment I'm RA spec'd w/ MoS3, IP2, Purge 1. Purge 2 will be my next investment, then I'm going with Mastery of Pain, First Aid 1, PD, Toughness in that order.

Jarqo wrote:Add and run (bow spec xD)

BEAST

@Zack
u should not forget mids atm have all str relics (and u know how mutch this help on dmg, u got on your ranger too for long time). About your kills, i am surprised only about Domn because i have fight him with my ranger too, was not so easy to kill even if damn low rr, but we talking about 1 mounth ago, where was possible use all charges/buffs on 1 minute timer, now with new changes all is different ...

problem is now, with the new charge policy, gm's are bumping every class that can self buffs, exemple is Savigus that left scout for lvl up and play hunter (he play very good Hunter too, i had problem killing him on Drawstab ... and he is rr4lx ..., if he inc me on Imeope i am sure he destroy my inf)

have try some runs on Imeope and was already hard before (with the full buffs charges/potions 1 min timer), now is lot lot wrost ... (more love for Frairs, Thanes, Rangers ... , they really needed it? ... ), will never understand gm's ...

so, on conclusion, this is the time for good hunters ...

self buffs + super teamplate + new charge policy + well played = success

not surprise me if u and savigus (don't see anything else atm out of good) will start to rule on Hunter.
I'd like see Madinaa too, and ofc edgtho now ... they will cick a.s.ses

is not the time for low rr assassins ... (everything below rr7)

Ogmora have trishotted my infi yesterday, was not so funny fight:

no more af buff, no more ablative 150 charge, no more ravage's pride dmg add etc etc

... getting hit for 400+ dmg/swing, never evade, with 1600+ hp's ... is not funny at all ...

thx gm's ...

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Whats harder on a hunter is that your strafe has to be a lot better. That's all, because with the longer delay every style not in the back arc hurts.

I wouldnt bother trying to land your back style on an assasin. It is almost impossible if he keeps snare poison and garote spam up. Just chain strafe ur side style.
But as celteen mentioned, strafing is a lot harder with slower weapons. At least im pretty good in strafing side styles on my ranger, but on skald with 5.5 speed my timing is just not working =)

Blabla most assasins wont snare you, and the once who actually know how to play, one can remember easily and just kite them till you are sure you only need 2 styles to finish them or just drop all RA's ^^.

Just to bring some hard facts and pro knowlege I made this awesome drawing on how I think it works.



Key is to always get your styles off in the green area which is behind the target and is the back arc.
The yellow lines are the side arc - dont know how big this one is actually. So what I try on ranger is to not focus on side chain rather on the back arc. You only have 1/2 chance for a sucessfull side style if you focus on back arc but it will hit 100%. And if I hit the back arc without side chain who cares it's a taunt but it will actually hit.

Anyway most of the time I strafe that bad that it turns out to a random function if I hit the back arc. But at least I try to play like a boss!

yep thats how it works... on uthgard

running trough a target, /face and hit directly works only on uthgard
on live you encounter allways an "out of view" with an unstyled attack afterwards. that happens with a delay of about 1sec

Celteen wrote: And if I hit the back arc without side chain who cares it's a taunt but it will actually hit.

lols if u land a taunt instead this means u use follow up styles which means u gamble on ur timing. this is not how strafing works. u must put off ur weapons strafe face and press side style. so there is no possibility to taunt instead of landing a side style. if u fail ur strafe u ll just hit unstyled, but in barely happens if ur timing is good.

realac0 wrote:...

I agree 100% that it was the assasin that got hurt the most by the charge change since they can no longer run as you said, essentially fully buffed and use a charge in fight.

So far the only 2 rangers that I have met that have thouroughly whipped my butt was you on Drawstab and Sneakeen on his ranger. Both well played and both way higher RR then me. I should lose those fights. With some RR's I really think this toon has a chance to succeed, but I will gladly admit that now, as you pointed out, is the time to be playing a self buff class. Also, because of the PA fix, the charge change, and the change to duel shadows for inf's there is less assasins out now then ever before. So since that is the class my hunter is most weak against that could be part of the reason I feel so successful now.