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Postby -l- Edgtho -l- » Dec 15, 2010 12:39

i already seen some 400 hits on uthgard with spear and 39+xx spear is nothing , 50+xx spear thats what i talk about and compared to my live hunter its rly much
on live i did 250-300 but never 400 with 50 spear :)

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Postby Seyha » Dec 15, 2010 12:42

400 against what?
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Postby -l- Edgtho -l- » Dec 15, 2010 12:43

Seyha wrote:400 against what?


against sced infi with slash
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Postby Vashna » Dec 15, 2010 12:50

With 39+14 i'm supposed to cap my dmg... So go to 50 won,t change anything. Am i wrong?

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Postby Disdain » Dec 15, 2010 12:59

Doing 400 damage without a crit as selfbuffed hunter against capped resists is (I can imagine) impossible seeing as hitting for 400 with fullbuffed tanks is considered "high damage" and doesn't happen often.
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Postby Seyha » Dec 15, 2010 12:59

Vashna wrote:With 39+14 i'm supposed to cap my dmg... So go to 50 won,t change anything. Am i wrong?


You will get a small bonus from 2hand spec. The bonus is 1/2% per point in Spear. So the difference between 39 and 50 spec is 5.5% + a tiny increase in style damage.

I tested the difference in damage between 39 spec and 50 spec with Gemma. I was doing ~200 damage to the target dummy with the blue dex/qui buff and 70/75 strength on my template. He did ~220, and that was with the yellow dex/qui buff and capped strength on his template.
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Postby Seyha » Jan 01, 2011 11:22

OK Edgtho, I watched the entire video.

Here's what I liked:

I'm surprised and impressed by your damage. I didn't think damage like that was possible for a Hunter, but Ragnarok is killer and even your any-time damage is good (in the video).

You're a great a player who has taken the melee ability of a gimp class to its absolute maximum (for Sword spec). It's fun to watch. I think your fight with Dioz was the best.

Purge will help you a lot.

With that said, it's funny watching you get ganked by Ranger adds (there are a lot of them). Poetic justice, I think.

Here's what I don't like:

I count 7-8 buffs active in most of your fights. Only 2 of those are self-buffs. Your gear is worth a fortune; s/c charge, cloak of the wicked, that crazy 2hand sword I can't even remember what its called, +all the other items you have in what is no doubt an all-cap template.

With all of this, you are still barely competitive with lower and equal RR players running templates and buffs worth a fraction of what you have. A perfect example of this is your fight with Totes. A very inexperienced NS player with a cheap template and no buffs, in the end she kills you even after you burned your RR5 to let the s/c poison clear and rebuff your ablative charge. You only beat her because of some lucky procs. That's pretty weak, but I guess it's the price you pay when IP is down.

Most assassins didn't even use s/c poison on you. I guess it shows how lazy most assassin players are on this server that they expect viper and evade to play the game for them. When the RNG doesn't favor them they get their heads chopped off by a melee Hunter. Comedy.

A lot of the players you fight react slowly, or strangely. I guess they are shocked to have a giant norseman with a pet destealth them with Ragnarok. I didn't see any fights where you had your attacks evaded 4-5 times in a row, since this would guarantee a loss for you and wouldn't make for fun viewing (right?). Also, you begin almost all your fights with the initiative (camouflage), or at least on equal footing. I wonder how well you do when a camo'd Ranger side-stuns you out of stealth?

Watching this video I can't help but to think that in most of the situations where Edgtho died, Add would have finished with 50% of his HP. You got owned in melee by Zacknafein (a bow spec Ranger) and his little Brehon buddy. Add would have stomped both of them. Your fight with Trolgrin lasted forever, but I remember watching Trolgrin /sit with full health when Add purged his slam. Because he knew it was hopeless.

Your video is impressive, but not always for the reasons you expect.
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Postby Eclipsed » Jan 01, 2011 18:32

If you ever see a possible assasin in stealth, while you are fighting another player or just before you fight. You should try to keep moving a little, to avoid the PA. One of those fights would have gone down better, then just standing still.
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Postby Ostdrauka » Dec 04, 2012 00:45

Does anyone still have this video uploaded or for view anywhere?
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Postby LindsayLohan » Dec 04, 2012 01:57

if anyone can post it on youtube please
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Postby RonELuvv » Dec 04, 2012 19:44

Edgtho, loved the video. I can give you my personal oppinion on it next time i'm on and were bored. :)

As far as all this, "Hunter is broke, wah, wah, blah, blah, boo hoo..." crap has been said let me say. I'm lvl 50, and just hit 4L2 on my hunter. I've solo'd rangers at RR7+, I've killed 8L+ wardens, I've killed a few assasins (allthouh I admit they are tough), and killed mercs/reavers/hero's and that is just in the last few nights. Anyone who says this class is gimped has no clue what they are doing.

I will come right out and say that as of right now this hunter is more powerful at 4L2 then my ranger was at the same RR. I will admit that I run a very expensive top of the line template. I run Akars barrier s/c charge and 17% haste charge, have 42 beastcraft buffs, and I run str/con/dex potions. However, I run almost the exact same charges and pots on my ranger and also had a very good template on my ranger. If you think I'm lying about any of this then please ask Stonedome, Networth, Rexxs, Goyo, Skyhigh, Domm, Nitar, or any of the many others I have killed in the last couple of weeks. I dont post these names to brag because every one of them also beat me in some fights, but I do it to say the class is not gimp.

My spear does AWESOME dmg so people saying spear dmg is broke, well I just dont see it, and if they increased dmg I would be destroying people. I'm doing 160-220 dmg per swing using the 2 style anytimer. How is that bad dmg? Hunter pets do need to be fixxed and Blue has acknowledged that, but dont you see that the pet is not just there for a dmg add. He prevents classes from casting/ranged and it prevents them from kiting to heal etc. About the only thing I will admit is that assasins are easier on my ranger than on my hunter, but that is just because of the duel wield reducing evade rates.
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Postby Austerim » Dec 04, 2012 21:01

Anyone can kill Goyo. :roll:
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Postby Jarqo » Dec 04, 2012 21:07

Ofc by 2 shots ;)
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Postby RonELuvv » Dec 04, 2012 21:11

Actually, I have only killed Goyo twice out of about 5 fights. But 4 of those 5 fights occured w/out purge and when I was only 49.5. Say what you want about his skills, but he is almost twice the RR to me and is a high evade class.

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Postby Orihiime » Dec 04, 2012 21:19

RonELuvv wrote:Actually, I have only killed Goyo twice out of about 5 fights. But 4 of those 5 fights occured w/out purge and when I was only 49.5. Say what you want about his skills, but he is almost twice the RR to me and is a high evade class.

Almost twice ? he is only 6L2 lol, twice would have mean 8L4, and almost twice at least 7L3+ :D
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